1 00:00:07,670 --> 00:00:04,550 what's up everybody i'm starting a 2 00:00:09,350 --> 00:00:07,680 little early because we can mr cameron 3 00:00:11,509 --> 00:00:09,360 is here i'm here 4 00:00:14,950 --> 00:00:11,519 so why don't we do that 5 00:00:16,550 --> 00:00:14,960 um hope you are doing 6 00:00:19,750 --> 00:00:16,560 really well today 7 00:00:21,510 --> 00:00:19,760 um it is super windy by me uh we had a 8 00:00:23,990 --> 00:00:21,520 windstorm last night i was just telling 9 00:00:25,509 --> 00:00:24,000 uh grant that knocked out our internet 10 00:00:27,830 --> 00:00:25,519 and everything up until about a half 11 00:00:29,109 --> 00:00:27,840 hour ago so so 12 00:00:30,470 --> 00:00:29,119 all these thoughts were running through 13 00:00:32,790 --> 00:00:30,480 my head how am i gonna put on that 14 00:00:35,670 --> 00:00:32,800 eight-hour show tomorrow um how am i 15 00:00:37,350 --> 00:00:35,680 gonna do this show 16 00:00:40,709 --> 00:00:37,360 but uh we're okay 17 00:00:43,430 --> 00:00:40,719 we're okay it kicked in so we are good 18 00:00:44,389 --> 00:00:43,440 um if for those of you who don't know or 19 00:00:47,190 --> 00:00:44,399 maybe know 20 00:00:49,270 --> 00:00:47,200 this week uh james lindonly um 21 00:00:51,990 --> 00:00:49,280 engaging the phenomenon 22 00:00:53,510 --> 00:00:52,000 is doing a special all week contact week 23 00:00:55,670 --> 00:00:53,520 um 24 00:00:58,950 --> 00:00:55,680 he's doing like a video a day something 25 00:01:01,910 --> 00:00:58,960 pretty intense like that super cool um 26 00:01:03,510 --> 00:01:01,920 today i'm having a special grant was 27 00:01:05,350 --> 00:01:03,520 kind enough to 28 00:01:07,350 --> 00:01:05,360 do this episode with me 29 00:01:10,070 --> 00:01:07,360 um you know he wrote the book pretty 30 00:01:12,870 --> 00:01:10,080 much on contact modalities and uh you 31 00:01:13,670 --> 00:01:12,880 know i'm a music man and um 32 00:01:17,830 --> 00:01:13,680 he 33 00:01:19,910 --> 00:01:17,840 has pretty good stories about that so 34 00:01:22,390 --> 00:01:19,920 we are going to 35 00:01:23,510 --> 00:01:22,400 play the intro here which is just a 36 00:01:25,830 --> 00:01:23,520 little more 37 00:01:26,870 --> 00:01:25,840 uh shameless self-promotion for the show 38 00:01:28,070 --> 00:01:26,880 tomorrow 39 00:01:31,830 --> 00:01:28,080 and 40 00:01:33,270 --> 00:01:31,840 maybe 41 00:01:34,789 --> 00:01:33,280 actually let me play a different one i 42 00:01:36,630 --> 00:01:34,799 changed my mind 43 00:01:38,469 --> 00:01:36,640 i'll play that at the end let's do this 44 00:01:40,390 --> 00:01:38,479 i'll be back 45 00:01:41,190 --> 00:01:40,400 t-minus ten nine 46 00:01:42,230 --> 00:01:41,200 eight 47 00:01:43,109 --> 00:01:42,240 seven 48 00:01:45,190 --> 00:01:43,119 six 49 00:01:46,310 --> 00:01:45,200 five 50 00:01:47,350 --> 00:01:46,320 three 51 00:01:48,389 --> 00:01:47,360 two 52 00:01:51,749 --> 00:01:48,399 one 53 00:01:58,220 --> 00:01:51,759 zero and liftoff of space shuttle 54 00:02:54,390 --> 00:02:23,810 [Music] 55 00:02:58,229 --> 00:02:56,229 i love that one got the little aliens in 56 00:03:01,990 --> 00:02:58,239 there right at the end all right so 57 00:03:05,030 --> 00:03:02,000 without further ado i will bring on the 58 00:03:06,710 --> 00:03:05,040 myth the legend the grant cameron how 59 00:03:08,149 --> 00:03:06,720 are you how are you doing sean thanks 60 00:03:09,030 --> 00:03:08,159 for having me on i appreciate your 61 00:03:11,990 --> 00:03:09,040 interest 62 00:03:13,670 --> 00:03:12,000 oh man it's my pleasure and um 63 00:03:15,750 --> 00:03:13,680 you know i told you this already but i 64 00:03:16,869 --> 00:03:15,760 want to make it known to everybody 65 00:03:20,229 --> 00:03:16,879 watching 66 00:03:21,509 --> 00:03:20,239 how much i just love your living room it 67 00:03:22,710 --> 00:03:21,519 is just 68 00:03:24,550 --> 00:03:22,720 it's a 69 00:03:26,309 --> 00:03:24,560 you got a beautiful piano there i'd 70 00:03:29,270 --> 00:03:26,319 probably be laying on the couch my robe 71 00:03:33,270 --> 00:03:29,280 all the time eating cheese or something 72 00:03:36,789 --> 00:03:34,789 yeah it's amazing it's amazing what you 73 00:03:38,390 --> 00:03:36,799 can do with modern technology 74 00:03:40,869 --> 00:03:38,400 what 75 00:03:42,390 --> 00:03:40,879 oh my god okay 76 00:03:44,070 --> 00:03:42,400 yeah thanks for coming back this is your 77 00:03:45,830 --> 00:03:44,080 second pit stop here i really do 78 00:03:47,589 --> 00:03:45,840 appreciate it i know you probably got a 79 00:03:48,630 --> 00:03:47,599 lot going on so 80 00:03:50,470 --> 00:03:48,640 um 81 00:03:52,470 --> 00:03:50,480 but contact week there's no one got 82 00:03:54,869 --> 00:03:52,480 really better to bring on than you so 83 00:03:55,990 --> 00:03:54,879 i'm lucky enough that that you came 84 00:03:56,789 --> 00:03:56,000 um 85 00:04:01,750 --> 00:03:56,799 you know 86 00:04:03,830 --> 00:04:01,760 contact modalities and um 87 00:04:06,550 --> 00:04:03,840 you know being a musician and songwriter 88 00:04:08,630 --> 00:04:06,560 i'm always super interested in 89 00:04:09,910 --> 00:04:08,640 the download stories with musicians and 90 00:04:12,830 --> 00:04:09,920 songwriters 91 00:04:15,509 --> 00:04:12,840 um i wanted to start out with this 92 00:04:19,110 --> 00:04:15,519 question um 93 00:04:20,710 --> 00:04:19,120 what is the well give me the 94 00:04:23,430 --> 00:04:20,720 wildest 95 00:04:26,830 --> 00:04:23,440 download story that you know about a 96 00:04:32,629 --> 00:04:29,990 wow holy cow 97 00:04:35,030 --> 00:04:32,639 uh the one i like the best is the 98 00:04:37,030 --> 00:04:35,040 um well i get let's do the first one i 99 00:04:39,590 --> 00:04:37,040 got was when i had my download 100 00:04:41,510 --> 00:04:39,600 experience in 2012 this consciousness 101 00:04:43,430 --> 00:04:41,520 download experience what i wanted to do 102 00:04:44,870 --> 00:04:43,440 then is i wanted to say because i i 103 00:04:46,469 --> 00:04:44,880 completely flipped i mean i was doing 104 00:04:48,950 --> 00:04:46,479 the president's documents all that kind 105 00:04:51,030 --> 00:04:48,960 of stuff and i had suddenly 106 00:04:52,310 --> 00:04:51,040 said like i i never had a sort of a 107 00:04:53,830 --> 00:04:52,320 paranormal 108 00:04:56,710 --> 00:04:53,840 experience i would you know like that 109 00:04:59,030 --> 00:04:56,720 kind of stuff psychic type stuff before 110 00:05:01,110 --> 00:04:59,040 and so i wanted to look to see i wonder 111 00:05:03,110 --> 00:05:01,120 if anybody else had this happen to them 112 00:05:04,310 --> 00:05:03,120 and the first one i came across was i 113 00:05:05,830 --> 00:05:04,320 think it was the most produced song of 114 00:05:07,990 --> 00:05:05,840 the 20th century yesterday by paul 115 00:05:09,430 --> 00:05:08,000 mccartney and he tells the story that's 116 00:05:10,950 --> 00:05:09,440 the first one i found on the internet 117 00:05:12,390 --> 00:05:10,960 and it was like you know he's in the 118 00:05:14,710 --> 00:05:12,400 middle of the night and he wakes up and 119 00:05:16,390 --> 00:05:14,720 this song is in his head and he there's 120 00:05:18,469 --> 00:05:16,400 a piano in the room and he runs over and 121 00:05:21,430 --> 00:05:18,479 plays this song on the piano 122 00:05:23,670 --> 00:05:21,440 and um you know then he runs around for 123 00:05:24,550 --> 00:05:23,680 like a month i think um 124 00:05:25,909 --> 00:05:24,560 i think he was going to call it 125 00:05:28,390 --> 00:05:25,919 scrambled eggs i think he was going to 126 00:05:30,550 --> 00:05:28,400 call it or something and and he he was 127 00:05:32,150 --> 00:05:30,560 telling people you've heard this song 128 00:05:34,390 --> 00:05:32,160 he was sure someone had played it he had 129 00:05:35,590 --> 00:05:34,400 just remembered the song from somebody 130 00:05:38,629 --> 00:05:35,600 and everybody said no i never heard that 131 00:05:41,189 --> 00:05:38,639 song before and uh mccartney actually 132 00:05:42,870 --> 00:05:41,199 had three songs that were uh downloads 133 00:05:44,469 --> 00:05:42,880 the one i liked the best 134 00:05:46,710 --> 00:05:44,479 is this if you've ever heard the song 135 00:05:49,670 --> 00:05:46,720 about uh let it be 136 00:05:51,590 --> 00:05:49,680 so yeah i love the beatles yeah so he he 137 00:05:54,710 --> 00:05:51,600 has this story where you know it's the 138 00:05:55,749 --> 00:05:54,720 end of the beatles era and mc and uh 139 00:05:57,749 --> 00:05:55,759 um 140 00:05:59,350 --> 00:05:57,759 uh harrison has already left the band 141 00:06:00,950 --> 00:05:59,360 and yoko ono's there and he's got 142 00:06:03,029 --> 00:06:00,960 everybody upset and 143 00:06:04,710 --> 00:06:03,039 and uh he's he's distressed you know 144 00:06:06,230 --> 00:06:04,720 he's just been separated and he's the 145 00:06:09,110 --> 00:06:06,240 drug problems going on and stuff like 146 00:06:12,230 --> 00:06:09,120 this and uh he's in the middle of night 147 00:06:14,150 --> 00:06:12,240 he has a dream or his his dead mother 148 00:06:16,070 --> 00:06:14,160 whose name is mary comes to him and she 149 00:06:18,469 --> 00:06:16,080 died when he was 14 years old mother 150 00:06:19,909 --> 00:06:18,479 mary and she comes and i always say 151 00:06:20,870 --> 00:06:19,919 everybody thinks it's mother mary in the 152 00:06:23,189 --> 00:06:20,880 bible 153 00:06:25,029 --> 00:06:23,199 and when you listen to the lyrics 154 00:06:27,189 --> 00:06:25,039 she came and she said it'll be okay let 155 00:06:29,430 --> 00:06:27,199 it be and so that's what the lyrics are 156 00:06:31,189 --> 00:06:29,440 when when in times of trouble 157 00:06:33,270 --> 00:06:31,199 mother mary comes to me speaking words 158 00:06:35,430 --> 00:06:33,280 of wisdom let it be let it be and then 159 00:06:36,870 --> 00:06:35,440 when you start to realize these songs 160 00:06:39,270 --> 00:06:36,880 and i've gotten to the point like i was 161 00:06:41,110 --> 00:06:39,280 never a musician which was the actually 162 00:06:43,590 --> 00:06:41,120 probably a good thing because 163 00:06:44,950 --> 00:06:43,600 it's not like i went and you know 164 00:06:47,189 --> 00:06:44,960 developed this thing i couldn't have 165 00:06:49,350 --> 00:06:47,199 cared less i mean if you know the story 166 00:06:51,110 --> 00:06:49,360 i wrote tuned in the whole book tuned in 167 00:06:53,350 --> 00:06:51,120 came from 168 00:06:56,070 --> 00:06:53,360 uh contact i was close friends with 169 00:06:58,629 --> 00:06:56,080 chris bledsoe i'd met him in 2012 170 00:07:00,230 --> 00:06:58,639 after he'd had this experience where 171 00:07:01,270 --> 00:07:00,240 uh these two experiences where the woman 172 00:07:02,950 --> 00:07:01,280 takes him 173 00:07:05,110 --> 00:07:02,960 and says to him 174 00:07:06,469 --> 00:07:05,120 uh you have a mission is yours you have 175 00:07:08,469 --> 00:07:06,479 a you have a burden and is yours to 176 00:07:11,670 --> 00:07:08,479 carry which is the the message to tell 177 00:07:13,029 --> 00:07:11,680 to the world and um so i had the 178 00:07:14,870 --> 00:07:13,039 experience with him in his house and 179 00:07:16,870 --> 00:07:14,880 stuff and i knew him fairly well and i 180 00:07:18,950 --> 00:07:16,880 knew he was the real deal and then he 181 00:07:20,150 --> 00:07:18,960 gave me he phones me up and this has now 182 00:07:22,230 --> 00:07:20,160 happened i think 183 00:07:24,150 --> 00:07:22,240 three four times now where he phones me 184 00:07:25,749 --> 00:07:24,160 up and he says oh i gotta i got a 185 00:07:27,990 --> 00:07:25,759 message from the guardians for you and i 186 00:07:29,350 --> 00:07:28,000 go really you got a message for me from 187 00:07:31,189 --> 00:07:29,360 there 188 00:07:32,710 --> 00:07:31,199 he said yeah yeah he said you do and he 189 00:07:34,309 --> 00:07:32,720 said and then he says 190 00:07:36,230 --> 00:07:34,319 they just want you to know the messages 191 00:07:38,469 --> 00:07:36,240 in the music and that's when i said to 192 00:07:40,309 --> 00:07:38,479 him well chris 193 00:07:42,150 --> 00:07:40,319 uh you may be talking the wrong guy 194 00:07:44,070 --> 00:07:42,160 because i don't listen to music i don't 195 00:07:45,110 --> 00:07:44,080 play music my whole family is very 196 00:07:47,029 --> 00:07:45,120 musical 197 00:07:48,869 --> 00:07:47,039 my father built theater organs my mother 198 00:07:50,390 --> 00:07:48,879 was a church organist for 40 years and 199 00:07:52,070 --> 00:07:50,400 stuff like that 200 00:07:53,430 --> 00:07:52,080 and i just didn't have any interest he 201 00:07:55,029 --> 00:07:53,440 just kept talking 202 00:07:56,469 --> 00:07:55,039 and he said you should listen to kashmir 203 00:07:59,029 --> 00:07:56,479 about led zeppelin 204 00:08:00,790 --> 00:07:59,039 and um and then i go yeah whatever you 205 00:08:02,469 --> 00:08:00,800 know and then this is this whole idea 206 00:08:05,510 --> 00:08:02,479 about what's actually going on here the 207 00:08:07,029 --> 00:08:05,520 the the intricacies of is there somebody 208 00:08:09,350 --> 00:08:07,039 in the field who's actually dragging you 209 00:08:10,950 --> 00:08:09,360 along through this this whole deal 210 00:08:12,950 --> 00:08:10,960 because the synchronicity that happened 211 00:08:15,749 --> 00:08:12,960 next i i was no way i was going to touch 212 00:08:18,230 --> 00:08:15,759 this thing and and he said to me said 213 00:08:19,749 --> 00:08:18,240 and the other song they want you to 214 00:08:22,230 --> 00:08:19,759 you should probably listen to is after 215 00:08:24,710 --> 00:08:22,240 the gold rush by by neil young 216 00:08:26,390 --> 00:08:24,720 and i went yeah young are you kidding me 217 00:08:28,469 --> 00:08:26,400 and i live in winnipeg manitoba canada 218 00:08:30,550 --> 00:08:28,479 which is the joke here is that it's the 219 00:08:32,389 --> 00:08:30,560 one it's the one city in winnipeg in in 220 00:08:34,550 --> 00:08:32,399 canada not even canadians want to visit 221 00:08:36,870 --> 00:08:34,560 it's the coldest major city in the world 222 00:08:39,670 --> 00:08:36,880 there's really nothing here and neil 223 00:08:41,990 --> 00:08:39,680 young grew up here and i said neil young 224 00:08:43,670 --> 00:08:42,000 is involved in this ufo thing with the 225 00:08:45,190 --> 00:08:43,680 music and he said yeah yeah 226 00:08:47,110 --> 00:08:45,200 and then i listened to the lyrics the 227 00:08:48,389 --> 00:08:47,120 lyrics were of course this very famous 228 00:08:49,829 --> 00:08:48,399 lyrics 229 00:08:52,310 --> 00:08:49,839 which said you know we're treating the 230 00:08:54,230 --> 00:08:52,320 world like a gold russian and after the 231 00:08:56,630 --> 00:08:54,240 gold is gone the silver seeds are going 232 00:08:58,470 --> 00:08:56,640 to come and take the the chosen ones 233 00:09:00,630 --> 00:08:58,480 which is what ivan smith calls the 234 00:09:02,949 --> 00:09:00,640 contact east the chosen ones to another 235 00:09:04,389 --> 00:09:02,959 star system and then i learned later on 236 00:09:06,070 --> 00:09:04,399 other weird things about this whole 237 00:09:09,670 --> 00:09:06,080 thing is the story just got wilder and 238 00:09:10,630 --> 00:09:09,680 wilder is that the whole song was based 239 00:09:12,470 --> 00:09:10,640 upon 240 00:09:15,590 --> 00:09:12,480 uh what a lot of experiences have 241 00:09:16,949 --> 00:09:15,600 encountered and even i've seen and one 242 00:09:18,710 --> 00:09:16,959 major major 243 00:09:20,949 --> 00:09:18,720 regression 244 00:09:22,550 --> 00:09:20,959 researcher has seen and that's the wave 245 00:09:24,389 --> 00:09:22,560 people always you know when people are 246 00:09:26,150 --> 00:09:24,399 on board the ship there's 39 of people 247 00:09:27,269 --> 00:09:26,160 on board the ship say they've been shown 248 00:09:28,470 --> 00:09:27,279 the screen and you don't have to tell 249 00:09:29,750 --> 00:09:28,480 them what the screen is you just say did 250 00:09:31,269 --> 00:09:29,760 you see the screen onboard the ship and 251 00:09:32,870 --> 00:09:31,279 i go yeah yeah they show me the screen 252 00:09:34,870 --> 00:09:32,880 what do they show you and people will 253 00:09:37,509 --> 00:09:34,880 describe either you know environment 254 00:09:38,630 --> 00:09:37,519 environmental damage or they'll describe 255 00:09:41,190 --> 00:09:38,640 um 256 00:09:43,590 --> 00:09:41,200 uh you know the nuclear weapon thing and 257 00:09:45,110 --> 00:09:43,600 or they'll describe the the wave thing 258 00:09:46,710 --> 00:09:45,120 this giant wave that comes and just 259 00:09:48,070 --> 00:09:46,720 washes everything over and that's what 260 00:09:49,910 --> 00:09:48,080 neil young's song that's what the song 261 00:09:51,110 --> 00:09:49,920 is actually about it's about a script 262 00:09:52,949 --> 00:09:51,120 that was written 263 00:09:54,949 --> 00:09:52,959 by a guy a friend of his and it was 264 00:09:56,949 --> 00:09:54,959 about a giant tsunami that takes out los 265 00:09:59,829 --> 00:09:56,959 angeles that's what the song is about 266 00:10:03,590 --> 00:09:59,839 and so and so this is this whole deal 267 00:10:05,430 --> 00:10:03,600 that it was sort of um vision of um 268 00:10:06,870 --> 00:10:05,440 where neil young got it from and a lot 269 00:10:08,389 --> 00:10:06,880 of people were trying to figure out was 270 00:10:10,710 --> 00:10:08,399 he inexperienced but what i did know 271 00:10:12,389 --> 00:10:10,720 about his song was that when i started 272 00:10:14,710 --> 00:10:12,399 looking at it i suddenly realized that 273 00:10:16,150 --> 00:10:14,720 there was all these musicians who had 274 00:10:17,590 --> 00:10:16,160 sang after the gold rush like patty 275 00:10:20,470 --> 00:10:17,600 smith who was the first woman to sing on 276 00:10:24,069 --> 00:10:20,480 saturday night live there was uh the the 277 00:10:25,350 --> 00:10:24,079 lead singer for um the flaming lips uh 278 00:10:27,590 --> 00:10:25,360 there was about 279 00:10:28,949 --> 00:10:27,600 about six of them all sang the song and 280 00:10:30,550 --> 00:10:28,959 they're all experiences i know for a 281 00:10:32,069 --> 00:10:30,560 fact their experiences they're you know 282 00:10:33,670 --> 00:10:32,079 like the guy from flaming lips tells the 283 00:10:35,829 --> 00:10:33,680 story about being at the drive-in when 284 00:10:37,350 --> 00:10:35,839 he's a little kid and the six ufos are 285 00:10:39,509 --> 00:10:37,360 there over top of the screen and this 286 00:10:41,990 --> 00:10:39,519 sort of stuff so that was the the weird 287 00:10:43,509 --> 00:10:42,000 thing is it just got weirder and weirder 288 00:10:46,230 --> 00:10:43,519 and um 289 00:10:47,190 --> 00:10:46,240 i started looking at how many musicians 290 00:10:48,870 --> 00:10:47,200 were 291 00:10:51,190 --> 00:10:48,880 experiences and that's where the book 292 00:10:52,069 --> 00:10:51,200 tuned in came from it was this this idea 293 00:10:56,230 --> 00:10:52,079 that 294 00:10:58,069 --> 00:10:56,240 everybody can tap into 295 00:10:59,509 --> 00:10:58,079 and i'll meet you know musicians you 296 00:11:02,230 --> 00:10:59,519 know i was always to say the question 297 00:11:04,230 --> 00:11:02,240 like did you ever did you ever get a um 298 00:11:05,670 --> 00:11:04,240 a song that just came to you that you 299 00:11:07,750 --> 00:11:05,680 know you didn't have to compose or 300 00:11:09,829 --> 00:11:07,760 anything and i in the book i actually 301 00:11:12,069 --> 00:11:09,839 have an appendix i think i got about 150 302 00:11:15,190 --> 00:11:12,079 songs that came in under 5 minutes or 10 303 00:11:16,310 --> 00:11:15,200 minutes which is um uh he's there and 304 00:11:17,590 --> 00:11:16,320 i'll tell you one interesting i don't 305 00:11:19,990 --> 00:11:17,600 know if i've told you the story before 306 00:11:21,750 --> 00:11:20,000 but the i i live in winnipeg which a lot 307 00:11:23,910 --> 00:11:21,760 of major musicians came from like the 308 00:11:25,509 --> 00:11:23,920 crash test dummies and neil young and 309 00:11:27,829 --> 00:11:25,519 the guess who was the biggest band ever 310 00:11:28,949 --> 00:11:27,839 to come out of canada and in the 60s 311 00:11:31,750 --> 00:11:28,959 they were they were out selling the 312 00:11:33,030 --> 00:11:31,760 beatles in canada and and they tell the 313 00:11:35,110 --> 00:11:33,040 story i know if you heard this story 314 00:11:37,430 --> 00:11:35,120 about uh american woman this is a song 315 00:11:38,550 --> 00:11:37,440 that that nixon demanded it would not be 316 00:11:42,550 --> 00:11:38,560 sung 317 00:11:43,509 --> 00:11:42,560 house and they said no no you can't sing 318 00:11:45,670 --> 00:11:43,519 this song in the white house about 319 00:11:48,389 --> 00:11:45,680 american women and and the song if you 320 00:11:50,150 --> 00:11:48,399 know the song how it happened was 321 00:11:52,230 --> 00:11:50,160 um um 322 00:11:54,949 --> 00:11:52,240 burton cummings who was the lead singer 323 00:11:56,389 --> 00:11:54,959 i i actually looked it up i said at one 324 00:11:58,870 --> 00:11:56,399 point i thought they had every major 325 00:12:01,030 --> 00:11:58,880 musician every major singer was an 326 00:12:02,790 --> 00:12:01,040 abductee and i said i wonder if we got 327 00:12:04,790 --> 00:12:02,800 burton cummings i went and i looked i 328 00:12:07,670 --> 00:12:04,800 put burton cummings alien abduction and 329 00:12:09,670 --> 00:12:07,680 his facebook site pops up and he's going 330 00:12:11,350 --> 00:12:09,680 i i and he's talking in caps he's saying 331 00:12:13,750 --> 00:12:11,360 i'm 64 years old i'll say whatever the 332 00:12:15,590 --> 00:12:13,760 hell i want to say and he's yelling and 333 00:12:17,190 --> 00:12:15,600 he's and he's saying they're mistreated 334 00:12:19,110 --> 00:12:17,200 they're mistreating whitley strieber i 335 00:12:21,590 --> 00:12:19,120 know how he feels i'm going like wow 336 00:12:23,190 --> 00:12:21,600 this is this is beyond belief but this 337 00:12:24,629 --> 00:12:23,200 young american woman the biggest song 338 00:12:25,910 --> 00:12:24,639 they ever had was one of these songs 339 00:12:28,470 --> 00:12:25,920 that you'll hear about all the time 340 00:12:30,069 --> 00:12:28,480 these spontaneous songs where uh they're 341 00:12:33,750 --> 00:12:30,079 in mississauga ontario which is part of 342 00:12:36,310 --> 00:12:33,760 toronto and this is i think 1968 343 00:12:38,870 --> 00:12:36,320 somewhere in there and um there's they 344 00:12:41,829 --> 00:12:38,880 sang the first set then britain cummings 345 00:12:44,310 --> 00:12:41,839 is behind the set and he's um 346 00:12:47,190 --> 00:12:44,320 uh buying some records from a guy and 347 00:12:49,509 --> 00:12:47,200 then uh uh bachmann has broken a string 348 00:12:51,269 --> 00:12:49,519 on his guitar and then he's replacing 349 00:12:53,430 --> 00:12:51,279 the string and then all of a sudden he 350 00:12:55,110 --> 00:12:53,440 can hear bachmann's tuning up his guitar 351 00:12:56,629 --> 00:12:55,120 and he says i gotta go gotta go second 352 00:12:58,870 --> 00:12:56,639 set's starting you gotta go he goes 353 00:13:00,870 --> 00:12:58,880 running up on stage and bachmann plays 354 00:13:02,470 --> 00:13:00,880 this riff from american woman and he 355 00:13:04,150 --> 00:13:02,480 says sing something sing something so 356 00:13:06,150 --> 00:13:04,160 burton coming starts singing american 357 00:13:08,629 --> 00:13:06,160 woman stay away from me and he sings 358 00:13:10,389 --> 00:13:08,639 this whole thing and as they're doing 359 00:13:11,910 --> 00:13:10,399 this they realize there's a kid in the 360 00:13:13,670 --> 00:13:11,920 front and this is when the handheld tape 361 00:13:15,190 --> 00:13:13,680 recorders came out there's a kid in the 362 00:13:16,550 --> 00:13:15,200 front row he's got this handheld tape 363 00:13:18,069 --> 00:13:16,560 recorder and he's holding it up to the 364 00:13:19,910 --> 00:13:18,079 stage and they realize this kid's going 365 00:13:21,590 --> 00:13:19,920 to boot like the show so they tell the 366 00:13:23,829 --> 00:13:21,600 manager they say get the tape from the 367 00:13:26,069 --> 00:13:23,839 kid so the manager goes and grabs this 368 00:13:27,990 --> 00:13:26,079 kid and takes the tape off 369 00:13:30,470 --> 00:13:28,000 after the show they're all listening to 370 00:13:32,230 --> 00:13:30,480 the to the tape and here's the first 371 00:13:33,350 --> 00:13:32,240 song in the second set american woman 372 00:13:35,430 --> 00:13:33,360 and they're all looking at each other 373 00:13:38,150 --> 00:13:35,440 and going where'd that come from 374 00:13:40,470 --> 00:13:38,160 right did you and nobody even remembered 375 00:13:42,310 --> 00:13:40,480 singing it forget about 376 00:13:43,590 --> 00:13:42,320 and that's where the song came from and 377 00:13:45,509 --> 00:13:43,600 and they knew immediately it would be 378 00:13:46,949 --> 00:13:45,519 this hit and it was i think number one 379 00:13:48,550 --> 00:13:46,959 for three weeks in the united states 380 00:13:50,069 --> 00:13:48,560 this massive hit and that's what you 381 00:13:51,910 --> 00:13:50,079 find with these download songs they're 382 00:13:53,590 --> 00:13:51,920 always the greatest songs of all time 383 00:13:55,670 --> 00:13:53,600 they're there there are never the b-side 384 00:13:57,990 --> 00:13:55,680 song it's always the a side song that is 385 00:14:00,069 --> 00:13:58,000 these bizarre stories and and you find 386 00:14:02,550 --> 00:14:00,079 like like what i point out i think i 387 00:14:04,550 --> 00:14:02,560 think it's in um 388 00:14:06,310 --> 00:14:04,560 i got in a lot into when i got into 389 00:14:07,590 --> 00:14:06,320 inspirations and downloads and stuff it 390 00:14:09,189 --> 00:14:07,600 was the whole right brain left brain 391 00:14:11,430 --> 00:14:09,199 thing which is what the contact modality 392 00:14:12,790 --> 00:14:11,440 is all about is that musicians are very 393 00:14:14,629 --> 00:14:12,800 right-brained and most people don't 394 00:14:16,470 --> 00:14:14,639 realize that vast majority of the major 395 00:14:17,590 --> 00:14:16,480 musicians can't really write music and 396 00:14:19,430 --> 00:14:17,600 that's the whole thing they sit there 397 00:14:21,509 --> 00:14:19,440 and they wait for a song to come from 398 00:14:23,910 --> 00:14:21,519 and and that's yeah exactly 399 00:14:25,670 --> 00:14:23,920 and so left brain music is you you take 400 00:14:27,670 --> 00:14:25,680 your kid and like they tried to do with 401 00:14:29,269 --> 00:14:27,680 me forced me into piano lessons for six 402 00:14:30,710 --> 00:14:29,279 months until they had finally pulled me 403 00:14:32,790 --> 00:14:30,720 out and 404 00:14:35,509 --> 00:14:32,800 and it's like practice practice practice 405 00:14:37,509 --> 00:14:35,519 uh um paul paul mccartney said i've 406 00:14:39,750 --> 00:14:37,519 never done a scale nor do i ever intend 407 00:14:40,710 --> 00:14:39,760 to do a scale let me write my music and 408 00:14:41,910 --> 00:14:40,720 that's the whole thing people don't 409 00:14:44,710 --> 00:14:41,920 realize paul mccartney can't read to 410 00:14:46,069 --> 00:14:44,720 write music and even um jackie gleason 411 00:14:48,150 --> 00:14:46,079 who had um 412 00:14:49,590 --> 00:14:48,160 you know he was a big ufo guy 413 00:14:50,710 --> 00:14:49,600 yeah in the 1990s 414 00:14:53,509 --> 00:14:50,720 and stuff and we talked to the 415 00:14:55,750 --> 00:14:53,519 presidents about ufos i mean he had a he 416 00:14:57,750 --> 00:14:55,760 had an orchestra and he had put out 20 417 00:14:59,350 --> 00:14:57,760 albums on from his orchestra he couldn't 418 00:15:00,790 --> 00:14:59,360 really write music either he would sit 419 00:15:02,790 --> 00:15:00,800 there and he but he could tell when 420 00:15:05,269 --> 00:15:02,800 somebody in the in the orchestra hit a 421 00:15:06,790 --> 00:15:05,279 wrong note he could tell that and these 422 00:15:09,030 --> 00:15:06,800 kind of things that people just really 423 00:15:10,550 --> 00:15:09,040 don't realize is that it's this very 424 00:15:11,509 --> 00:15:10,560 right brain thing and it's the whole 425 00:15:13,509 --> 00:15:11,519 idea 426 00:15:15,269 --> 00:15:13,519 of gets into the whole consciousness 427 00:15:16,629 --> 00:15:15,279 thing is is where does music come from 428 00:15:18,629 --> 00:15:16,639 where it is if i say to you who's your 429 00:15:19,910 --> 00:15:18,639 first who's your first girlfriend a name 430 00:15:21,670 --> 00:15:19,920 pops into your head well where'd that 431 00:15:23,350 --> 00:15:21,680 name come from and you say wow it was in 432 00:15:25,509 --> 00:15:23,360 my brain come on give it up give it a 433 00:15:27,670 --> 00:15:25,519 rest i mean this stuff is popping out so 434 00:15:29,829 --> 00:15:27,680 i always say whether it's music i even 435 00:15:32,389 --> 00:15:29,839 now say that that talking like i talk 436 00:15:33,829 --> 00:15:32,399 very very fast sure anybody that thinks 437 00:15:35,670 --> 00:15:33,839 that there's there's neurons running 438 00:15:37,509 --> 00:15:35,680 around in my head putting words into the 439 00:15:38,790 --> 00:15:37,519 sentence and and somebody's working the 440 00:15:40,550 --> 00:15:38,800 hands and somebody's working the mouth 441 00:15:42,550 --> 00:15:40,560 or whatever this is this is like 442 00:15:44,710 --> 00:15:42,560 channeling it's just a lower level 443 00:15:46,790 --> 00:15:44,720 channeling than than musicians are doing 444 00:15:48,310 --> 00:15:46,800 and most musicians will talk about this 445 00:15:50,310 --> 00:15:48,320 uh when i did in the book called 446 00:15:53,590 --> 00:15:50,320 inspired i did i did everything else i 447 00:15:55,910 --> 00:15:53,600 did music i did uh art you know 448 00:15:58,310 --> 00:15:55,920 the wizard of oz was a download it came 449 00:16:00,949 --> 00:15:58,320 instantaneously to the guy the uh all 450 00:16:03,269 --> 00:16:00,959 seven books of harry potter came to jk 451 00:16:04,870 --> 00:16:03,279 rowling's on a train going into to 452 00:16:06,710 --> 00:16:04,880 london from manchester was delayed she 453 00:16:07,990 --> 00:16:06,720 fell asleep woke up and she said all 454 00:16:09,910 --> 00:16:08,000 this stuff's coming into my head all 455 00:16:11,030 --> 00:16:09,920 these names and places and stuff and i 456 00:16:13,030 --> 00:16:11,040 have a piece of paper and she's trying 457 00:16:14,629 --> 00:16:13,040 to write this down and you see this over 458 00:16:17,350 --> 00:16:14,639 and over again that some of the biggest 459 00:16:19,269 --> 00:16:17,360 books of all times uh are books that 460 00:16:22,550 --> 00:16:19,279 were basically channeled and so the 461 00:16:24,389 --> 00:16:22,560 whole idea comes down to 462 00:16:26,230 --> 00:16:24,399 where does this come from how does 463 00:16:27,829 --> 00:16:26,240 consciousness actually work and in the 464 00:16:29,030 --> 00:16:27,839 modern world i was thinking about this 465 00:16:31,350 --> 00:16:29,040 um 466 00:16:33,030 --> 00:16:31,360 just in the last couple of days 467 00:16:34,389 --> 00:16:33,040 a lot of people 468 00:16:35,670 --> 00:16:34,399 look at 469 00:16:39,509 --> 00:16:35,680 consciousness 470 00:16:40,310 --> 00:16:39,519 and they basically want to um figure out 471 00:16:42,230 --> 00:16:40,320 um 472 00:16:44,230 --> 00:16:42,240 can we do it and can we make some money 473 00:16:45,670 --> 00:16:44,240 from it and i've never been interested 474 00:16:47,670 --> 00:16:45,680 i've never i always say i'm never i'm 475 00:16:49,269 --> 00:16:47,680 not never interested in the show even if 476 00:16:50,949 --> 00:16:49,279 you look at remote viewing which if you 477 00:16:53,189 --> 00:16:50,959 look at remote viewing it's the most 478 00:16:56,470 --> 00:16:53,199 amazing thing of all times i mean people 479 00:16:59,670 --> 00:16:56,480 are you you close your eyes and you can 480 00:17:01,749 --> 00:16:59,680 pick up a target anywhere 481 00:17:04,309 --> 00:17:01,759 anywhere in the world any any place 482 00:17:06,549 --> 00:17:04,319 anytime and your mind knows exactly 483 00:17:08,309 --> 00:17:06,559 where to go uh what the question is and 484 00:17:09,990 --> 00:17:08,319 stuff like that and you go like well how 485 00:17:12,230 --> 00:17:10,000 the hell does that work and if you look 486 00:17:13,750 --> 00:17:12,240 at if the book the third eye spies if 487 00:17:15,110 --> 00:17:13,760 you ever looked at the book 488 00:17:17,189 --> 00:17:15,120 chris is in there 489 00:17:19,829 --> 00:17:17,199 the guy who ran the program for the cia 490 00:17:21,510 --> 00:17:19,839 and he said i i don't know how it works 491 00:17:23,429 --> 00:17:21,520 i i never knew how it worked i don't 492 00:17:26,230 --> 00:17:23,439 care how it works all i was interested 493 00:17:28,230 --> 00:17:26,240 in is does it work and if it does how do 494 00:17:29,430 --> 00:17:28,240 i make it operational and that's what we 495 00:17:31,110 --> 00:17:29,440 with consciousness we're trying to 496 00:17:32,870 --> 00:17:31,120 figure out almost like with ufos the 497 00:17:34,230 --> 00:17:32,880 same thing we're trying to figure out uh 498 00:17:36,950 --> 00:17:34,240 can we make some money from this thing 499 00:17:39,510 --> 00:17:36,960 rather than the the big question of what 500 00:17:41,350 --> 00:17:39,520 the heck is going on and so 501 00:17:43,990 --> 00:17:41,360 i'm never interested in the the sort of 502 00:17:45,350 --> 00:17:44,000 the what can we use consciousness for 503 00:17:47,909 --> 00:17:45,360 because what we're basically doing is 504 00:17:49,990 --> 00:17:47,919 what they did um back in the when the 505 00:17:52,070 --> 00:17:50,000 world war two started is the whole uh 506 00:17:53,669 --> 00:17:52,080 shut up and calculate thing so this is 507 00:17:55,830 --> 00:17:53,679 very amazing like quantum how does 508 00:17:57,430 --> 00:17:55,840 quantum physics work i don't care just 509 00:17:59,190 --> 00:17:57,440 use the equations and make bombs and 510 00:18:00,549 --> 00:17:59,200 make cell phones and and just use the 511 00:18:01,990 --> 00:18:00,559 equations don't worry about where it's 512 00:18:04,070 --> 00:18:02,000 coming from and that's what's happening 513 00:18:05,990 --> 00:18:04,080 again with consciousness with music with 514 00:18:08,470 --> 00:18:06,000 inspirations is when you start looking 515 00:18:11,110 --> 00:18:08,480 at the stuff it really gets really weird 516 00:18:13,110 --> 00:18:11,120 and you start to wonder like how in 517 00:18:14,470 --> 00:18:13,120 heaven's name is this happening and we 518 00:18:17,430 --> 00:18:14,480 we haven't got a clue we're just so 519 00:18:19,669 --> 00:18:17,440 clued out but we just uh say shut up and 520 00:18:23,270 --> 00:18:19,679 calculate use the remote viewing find 521 00:18:25,590 --> 00:18:23,280 stuff or uh use it for music whatever 522 00:18:28,470 --> 00:18:25,600 use it operationally and we've gone from 523 00:18:31,110 --> 00:18:28,480 x ah um exploration 524 00:18:32,070 --> 00:18:31,120 to exploitation so in world war ii i 525 00:18:34,789 --> 00:18:32,080 think what what happened with 526 00:18:36,630 --> 00:18:34,799 consciousness was before world war ii we 527 00:18:38,549 --> 00:18:36,640 had guys like einstein and max planck 528 00:18:39,510 --> 00:18:38,559 and bohr and all these guys and they 529 00:18:41,190 --> 00:18:39,520 were trying to figure out how the world 530 00:18:43,110 --> 00:18:41,200 worked and they would do the stuff about 531 00:18:44,870 --> 00:18:43,120 conscious mean primary and all this kind 532 00:18:46,549 --> 00:18:44,880 of stuff and then when world war ii came 533 00:18:48,310 --> 00:18:46,559 along we had 200 different indentions 534 00:18:50,390 --> 00:18:48,320 there was you know the proximity fuse 535 00:18:52,789 --> 00:18:50,400 and plastic explosives and 536 00:18:55,110 --> 00:18:52,799 synthetic rubber and nylon and jet 537 00:18:56,470 --> 00:18:55,120 engines and and you know atomic energy 538 00:18:58,549 --> 00:18:56,480 and all the stuff was invented during 539 00:19:00,950 --> 00:18:58,559 world war ii and we went from trying to 540 00:19:02,710 --> 00:19:00,960 figure out how does the world work to 541 00:19:05,830 --> 00:19:02,720 exploiting this stuff for weapons and 542 00:19:07,350 --> 00:19:05,840 for for making money and uh so that 543 00:19:09,590 --> 00:19:07,360 that's where i've sort of shifted now is 544 00:19:11,190 --> 00:19:09,600 i'm i'm still mostly in the idea of 545 00:19:12,950 --> 00:19:11,200 trying to figure out 546 00:19:15,270 --> 00:19:12,960 what's actually going on i really don't 547 00:19:17,110 --> 00:19:15,280 care about uh producing anything from it 548 00:19:18,630 --> 00:19:17,120 or or doing it i'm not interested in 549 00:19:20,789 --> 00:19:18,640 doing remote viewing i'm just trying to 550 00:19:22,470 --> 00:19:20,799 figure out like what's the heck yeah how 551 00:19:24,710 --> 00:19:22,480 does this work 552 00:19:26,789 --> 00:19:24,720 yeah no it is very interesting and i can 553 00:19:28,230 --> 00:19:26,799 only talk from my own experience 554 00:19:30,470 --> 00:19:28,240 especially when you're 555 00:19:32,310 --> 00:19:30,480 you just said i think a lot of it now is 556 00:19:33,909 --> 00:19:32,320 uh talking too because that's exactly 557 00:19:35,430 --> 00:19:33,919 right because as you know i'm talking 558 00:19:37,110 --> 00:19:35,440 right now i'm not thinking about it 559 00:19:40,230 --> 00:19:37,120 first yeah you know 560 00:19:41,430 --> 00:19:40,240 i'm just talking and when i do 561 00:19:43,350 --> 00:19:41,440 you know 562 00:19:44,470 --> 00:19:43,360 i've been writing songs for 20 years man 563 00:19:46,710 --> 00:19:44,480 so 564 00:19:49,190 --> 00:19:46,720 you know it's it's taken a while but at 565 00:19:52,070 --> 00:19:49,200 this point i've realized that um you 566 00:19:54,549 --> 00:19:52,080 know like forcing it or saying i'm gonna 567 00:19:57,350 --> 00:19:54,559 write a song right now or this is my 568 00:19:59,750 --> 00:19:57,360 songwriting time none of that works you 569 00:20:01,909 --> 00:19:59,760 know and i'm not writing hits but my 570 00:20:02,789 --> 00:20:01,919 best my best songs are 571 00:20:05,110 --> 00:20:02,799 um 572 00:20:06,630 --> 00:20:05,120 you know it just i can't explain when it 573 00:20:09,110 --> 00:20:06,640 comes but all of a sudden something 574 00:20:11,590 --> 00:20:09,120 comes over me that's kind of moving 575 00:20:13,270 --> 00:20:11,600 and i'm like i feel like i want to write 576 00:20:15,510 --> 00:20:13,280 a song right now and i don't even think 577 00:20:17,110 --> 00:20:15,520 about what i'm writing about you know i 578 00:20:19,270 --> 00:20:17,120 just start writing it 579 00:20:21,190 --> 00:20:19,280 and um so 580 00:20:22,070 --> 00:20:21,200 you know that's why i like you so much 581 00:20:23,990 --> 00:20:22,080 because 582 00:20:26,549 --> 00:20:24,000 you really been it you know that's sort 583 00:20:28,549 --> 00:20:26,559 of like this thing like like they uh 584 00:20:31,029 --> 00:20:28,559 like the difference between information 585 00:20:32,789 --> 00:20:31,039 and noetic information so when i had the 586 00:20:35,750 --> 00:20:32,799 experience in 2012 where you talk to 587 00:20:37,270 --> 00:20:35,760 musicians or people who had um an idea 588 00:20:40,390 --> 00:20:37,280 like i talked to tyler d the famous 589 00:20:41,909 --> 00:20:40,400 tyler d from american cosmic 590 00:20:43,270 --> 00:20:41,919 was talking to him about and he knew i 591 00:20:45,510 --> 00:20:43,280 was in download so he was telling me 592 00:20:48,070 --> 00:20:45,520 about this this thing that he sold this 593 00:20:49,990 --> 00:20:48,080 company for you know rumored big time 594 00:20:52,149 --> 00:20:50,000 money on on nasdaq 595 00:20:53,590 --> 00:20:52,159 and he said he got this idea that it's 596 00:20:55,110 --> 00:20:53,600 talked about in the book and then the 597 00:20:56,630 --> 00:20:55,120 the g one star general said who came up 598 00:20:58,630 --> 00:20:56,640 with this idea and he's trying to get it 599 00:21:01,669 --> 00:20:58,640 on the space shuttle but he said to me 600 00:21:03,190 --> 00:21:01,679 says the la i said um 601 00:21:04,470 --> 00:21:03,200 he's telling me about how it happened he 602 00:21:07,029 --> 00:21:04,480 said the last thing i remember grant 603 00:21:09,430 --> 00:21:07,039 before i woke up with that 80 in my head 604 00:21:11,029 --> 00:21:09,440 that night was a hooded figure standing 605 00:21:12,549 --> 00:21:11,039 at the end of the bed and of course it's 606 00:21:14,070 --> 00:21:12,559 like a shadow figure so of course i said 607 00:21:15,510 --> 00:21:14,080 could see his face and he goes no could 608 00:21:17,430 --> 00:21:15,520 see his face and i said oh she could be 609 00:21:19,029 --> 00:21:17,440 regressed so i was talking about going 610 00:21:20,630 --> 00:21:19,039 to yvonne smith and getting her address 611 00:21:22,789 --> 00:21:20,640 because he spends a lot of time in l.a 612 00:21:24,549 --> 00:21:22,799 traveling in l.a and and that's the 613 00:21:27,270 --> 00:21:24,559 whole thing is is when you when you get 614 00:21:28,950 --> 00:21:27,280 those ideas you know this is an idea 615 00:21:30,789 --> 00:21:28,960 this is not just an ordinary idea and 616 00:21:33,029 --> 00:21:30,799 that's this whole concept of noetic 617 00:21:35,590 --> 00:21:33,039 material that that musicians and people 618 00:21:37,909 --> 00:21:35,600 who invent things and stuff they just 619 00:21:39,669 --> 00:21:37,919 know write this down and that my big 620 00:21:41,990 --> 00:21:39,679 download experience was the one i had in 621 00:21:44,870 --> 00:21:42,000 i think was 2017 622 00:21:46,789 --> 00:21:44,880 where i'm walking down the street and uh 623 00:21:48,710 --> 00:21:46,799 i was walking downtown so i'd been 624 00:21:51,830 --> 00:21:48,720 walking for you know about an hour and a 625 00:21:53,350 --> 00:21:51,840 half six mile walk and then suddenly it 626 00:21:55,029 --> 00:21:53,360 came into my head and i knew get a piece 627 00:21:56,950 --> 00:21:55,039 of paper and start writing and you know 628 00:21:58,870 --> 00:21:56,960 it you know to write this down and 629 00:21:59,909 --> 00:21:58,880 that's the whole thing there's a field i 630 00:22:02,470 --> 00:21:59,919 believe 631 00:22:04,549 --> 00:22:02,480 that's out there we're part of the field 632 00:22:05,990 --> 00:22:04,559 and it's so contact modalities is all 633 00:22:07,510 --> 00:22:06,000 about accessing the field how do you 634 00:22:09,510 --> 00:22:07,520 access the field and the contact 635 00:22:11,750 --> 00:22:09,520 modality idea is there are all sorts of 636 00:22:13,510 --> 00:22:11,760 ways that people use to get in the field 637 00:22:15,909 --> 00:22:13,520 and it's basically it all comes down the 638 00:22:18,470 --> 00:22:15,919 same thing it's the ability to shut down 639 00:22:19,909 --> 00:22:18,480 the left rational analytical brain the 640 00:22:22,070 --> 00:22:19,919 little voice that's talking in your head 641 00:22:23,590 --> 00:22:22,080 that just creating all this noise that 642 00:22:25,110 --> 00:22:23,600 you can't pick up the signal and when 643 00:22:27,110 --> 00:22:25,120 you can do that almost like joe 644 00:22:29,029 --> 00:22:27,120 mcmonical said there's only one rule to 645 00:22:31,029 --> 00:22:29,039 a remote viewing you have to empty your 646 00:22:33,029 --> 00:22:31,039 mind and whatever you don't empty from 647 00:22:34,390 --> 00:22:33,039 your mind will affect your target it 648 00:22:36,390 --> 00:22:34,400 will interfere with the target you just 649 00:22:39,190 --> 00:22:36,400 empty your mind and you can go into the 650 00:22:41,110 --> 00:22:39,200 field so um i've i've sort of gotten 651 00:22:43,350 --> 00:22:41,120 into um 652 00:22:45,510 --> 00:22:43,360 very much that idea but i think the 653 00:22:47,110 --> 00:22:45,520 world is still into this um 654 00:22:49,270 --> 00:22:47,120 i sort of make this joke it's sort of 655 00:22:52,470 --> 00:22:49,280 like a capitalist uh 656 00:22:54,149 --> 00:22:52,480 um hoarding story where everybody's 657 00:22:55,990 --> 00:22:54,159 trying to gather stuff and then and then 658 00:22:56,950 --> 00:22:56,000 when you when you when you when you die 659 00:22:58,390 --> 00:22:56,960 your kids 660 00:22:59,990 --> 00:22:58,400 take a three-ton truck bring it to your 661 00:23:02,310 --> 00:23:00,000 house and load everything and take it to 662 00:23:03,669 --> 00:23:02,320 the dump and sell the house because you 663 00:23:06,230 --> 00:23:03,679 know the stuff that's important to us 664 00:23:08,549 --> 00:23:06,240 isn't important to our kids and we we've 665 00:23:09,830 --> 00:23:08,559 sort of got bizarre ideas about what's 666 00:23:10,789 --> 00:23:09,840 important we're just trying to grab all 667 00:23:12,789 --> 00:23:10,799 this stuff 668 00:23:15,029 --> 00:23:12,799 and the basic concept of this 669 00:23:17,110 --> 00:23:15,039 magnificence of the universe and this 670 00:23:17,909 --> 00:23:17,120 idea that we are a part of this thing 671 00:23:19,270 --> 00:23:17,919 where 672 00:23:20,710 --> 00:23:19,280 especially if you're a musician like 673 00:23:22,789 --> 00:23:20,720 like you or 674 00:23:24,630 --> 00:23:22,799 my experiences is you suddenly realize 675 00:23:26,950 --> 00:23:24,640 you're getting some help and that this 676 00:23:28,789 --> 00:23:26,960 this wasn't your idea almost like i 677 00:23:30,870 --> 00:23:28,799 think michael jackson said he was afraid 678 00:23:32,310 --> 00:23:30,880 to put his name on the the music because 679 00:23:33,830 --> 00:23:32,320 he didn't believe he'd ever written it 680 00:23:36,310 --> 00:23:33,840 and he was embarrassed to take money for 681 00:23:39,350 --> 00:23:36,320 it so you get these these musicians who 682 00:23:41,510 --> 00:23:39,360 repeat this over and over again or uh 683 00:23:43,830 --> 00:23:41,520 you know stories about uh 684 00:23:45,029 --> 00:23:43,840 uh the guy from blue 685 00:23:47,029 --> 00:23:45,039 that's the other thing i noticed was the 686 00:23:48,870 --> 00:23:47,039 guys that started certain things like 687 00:23:52,310 --> 00:23:48,880 started a certain type of music so the 688 00:23:54,549 --> 00:23:52,320 main guy for uh bluegrass music uh said 689 00:23:55,830 --> 00:23:54,559 i ain't never written any song they were 690 00:23:58,470 --> 00:23:55,840 floating around in here and i grabbed 691 00:24:03,110 --> 00:23:58,480 and pulled them down and and you see sun 692 00:24:05,909 --> 00:24:03,120 raw for jazz and you see uh john john 693 00:24:08,549 --> 00:24:05,919 john denver uh his type of music he was 694 00:24:11,190 --> 00:24:08,559 an experiencer he wrote these songs 695 00:24:13,190 --> 00:24:11,200 and you see it's not just the ordinary 696 00:24:15,110 --> 00:24:13,200 songs it's it's the people that started 697 00:24:16,710 --> 00:24:15,120 a certain type of song almost like the 698 00:24:18,870 --> 00:24:16,720 guy that started reggae music believed 699 00:24:22,310 --> 00:24:18,880 he was an alien i mean this is like you 700 00:24:24,630 --> 00:24:22,320 know really yeah that that's uh 701 00:24:27,269 --> 00:24:24,640 he was the producer for bob marley um 702 00:24:29,110 --> 00:24:27,279 his name is escaping me but he he he did 703 00:24:31,909 --> 00:24:29,120 sandra thought he was he was he was an 704 00:24:33,590 --> 00:24:31,919 extraterrestrial uh patty smith 705 00:24:35,430 --> 00:24:33,600 first woman to sing on saturday night 706 00:24:37,430 --> 00:24:35,440 live said i didn't come from here i 707 00:24:39,350 --> 00:24:37,440 don't look like anybody in my family and 708 00:24:41,110 --> 00:24:39,360 she hinted at it very strongly that she 709 00:24:41,990 --> 00:24:41,120 didn't she i was dropped here she said 710 00:24:43,510 --> 00:24:42,000 you know 711 00:24:45,190 --> 00:24:43,520 and that that's the other thing that i 712 00:24:47,029 --> 00:24:45,200 found in the book is you start to 713 00:24:48,710 --> 00:24:47,039 realize that how many musicians thought 714 00:24:50,549 --> 00:24:48,720 they were aliens or thought that they'd 715 00:24:52,310 --> 00:24:50,559 been dropped on earth it's like it's a 716 00:24:53,669 --> 00:24:52,320 huge number of musicians 717 00:24:56,789 --> 00:24:53,679 wow 718 00:25:00,549 --> 00:24:56,799 did they ever have any big 719 00:25:02,230 --> 00:25:00,559 um like aha moments or is it something 720 00:25:04,710 --> 00:25:02,240 that you've noticed 721 00:25:07,110 --> 00:25:04,720 they've always kind of just lived with 722 00:25:07,830 --> 00:25:07,120 and been a part of or is there ever been 723 00:25:10,950 --> 00:25:07,840 like 724 00:25:13,430 --> 00:25:10,960 for the musicians or whoever i guess 725 00:25:15,110 --> 00:25:13,440 um where there's been like a 726 00:25:17,510 --> 00:25:15,120 one big time where all of a sudden it's 727 00:25:19,269 --> 00:25:17,520 all come together or anything 728 00:25:21,350 --> 00:25:19,279 no i think it's it's sporadic that 729 00:25:24,630 --> 00:25:21,360 people will will 730 00:25:27,430 --> 00:25:24,640 they'll get the song they'll um 731 00:25:29,750 --> 00:25:27,440 chris what's the guy from coldplay um 732 00:25:30,710 --> 00:25:29,760 chris yeah chris martin chris martin 733 00:25:32,149 --> 00:25:30,720 have you ever seen i don't know if 734 00:25:33,750 --> 00:25:32,159 you've ever seen the song he has a 735 00:25:35,430 --> 00:25:33,760 couple of songs where he he talks about 736 00:25:36,789 --> 00:25:35,440 how he develops him and he again can't 737 00:25:38,549 --> 00:25:36,799 read or write music i mean just he's 738 00:25:40,390 --> 00:25:38,559 playing on the piano and he's just and 739 00:25:41,750 --> 00:25:40,400 he says something sounds right and 740 00:25:43,430 --> 00:25:41,760 that's the thing it's like yeah he does 741 00:25:45,110 --> 00:25:43,440 right and then he plays it and then he 742 00:25:46,710 --> 00:25:45,120 said and then he'll talk to the guys and 743 00:25:49,190 --> 00:25:46,720 this is a song it had 600 million hits 744 00:25:50,789 --> 00:25:49,200 or whatever i can't read it was but um 745 00:25:52,549 --> 00:25:50,799 he he's showing how he he came up with 746 00:25:54,070 --> 00:25:52,559 the song and then the guy said nah it's 747 00:25:55,110 --> 00:25:54,080 not very good and then he said but when 748 00:25:57,350 --> 00:25:55,120 i put this piece in and then he thought 749 00:26:00,230 --> 00:25:57,360 oh yeah that's good or he had the song 750 00:26:02,390 --> 00:26:00,240 orange was it orange or yellow yellow 751 00:26:03,830 --> 00:26:02,400 and if you heard how he loved that song 752 00:26:05,510 --> 00:26:03,840 it was the same thing he's just sitting 753 00:26:07,029 --> 00:26:05,520 there and they're all in scotland or 754 00:26:08,549 --> 00:26:07,039 something and they're they're after a 755 00:26:11,110 --> 00:26:08,559 concert or something there the guys are 756 00:26:12,390 --> 00:26:11,120 watching the soccer game and he's on the 757 00:26:13,990 --> 00:26:12,400 beach or something he said suddenly the 758 00:26:15,669 --> 00:26:14,000 song comes to him and he he quickly 759 00:26:17,110 --> 00:26:15,679 composes this thing and he goes running 760 00:26:18,230 --> 00:26:17,120 into the guy and he says hey listen to 761 00:26:19,990 --> 00:26:18,240 this what do you think of this and he 762 00:26:21,350 --> 00:26:20,000 plays the song and the guy says yes 763 00:26:23,830 --> 00:26:21,360 that's really good and goes back to 764 00:26:24,870 --> 00:26:23,840 watching the soccer game so it's like he 765 00:26:26,549 --> 00:26:24,880 was the only guy that was sort of 766 00:26:28,390 --> 00:26:26,559 picking this stuff up but he's he's sort 767 00:26:29,669 --> 00:26:28,400 of in the field or he's probably the 768 00:26:31,510 --> 00:26:29,679 biggest for 769 00:26:32,710 --> 00:26:31,520 download in terms of the number of songs 770 00:26:34,310 --> 00:26:32,720 that uh 771 00:26:36,470 --> 00:26:34,320 i think he was married to 772 00:26:37,909 --> 00:26:36,480 paltrow where she talks about this thing 773 00:26:39,029 --> 00:26:37,919 where he's sitting at the dinner table 774 00:26:40,789 --> 00:26:39,039 she said he's sitting at the dinner 775 00:26:43,350 --> 00:26:40,799 table and then she says and this strange 776 00:26:45,029 --> 00:26:43,360 look came on his in his eyes and he said 777 00:26:46,470 --> 00:26:45,039 hang on he goes running upstairs she 778 00:26:47,990 --> 00:26:46,480 could hear him on the piano and she said 779 00:26:49,590 --> 00:26:48,000 it was no more than three minutes he 780 00:26:50,870 --> 00:26:49,600 said come up here and listen to this and 781 00:26:53,510 --> 00:26:50,880 again it was one of these songs that had 782 00:26:55,990 --> 00:26:53,520 like a billion hits it was a billion 783 00:26:57,430 --> 00:26:56,000 youtube hits and and that's the thing is 784 00:26:59,669 --> 00:26:57,440 people have this 785 00:27:01,590 --> 00:26:59,679 ability and with him he talks about it 786 00:27:03,110 --> 00:27:01,600 for example he has this problem he can't 787 00:27:04,630 --> 00:27:03,120 sleep so he's always doing sleeping 788 00:27:05,590 --> 00:27:04,640 pills and stuff like that and he's up in 789 00:27:07,110 --> 00:27:05,600 the middle of night and that's what he 790 00:27:08,950 --> 00:27:07,120 said most of the songs come at two 791 00:27:10,789 --> 00:27:08,960 o'clock in the morning when nobody when 792 00:27:12,870 --> 00:27:10,799 everybody else is in bed 793 00:27:15,510 --> 00:27:12,880 he picks up these songs up in the middle 794 00:27:16,950 --> 00:27:15,520 of night just playing around and so 795 00:27:19,990 --> 00:27:16,960 i guess it'd be like anything else like 796 00:27:20,789 --> 00:27:20,000 there are musicians that you know that 797 00:27:24,149 --> 00:27:20,799 are 798 00:27:26,230 --> 00:27:24,159 you know professional musicians then 799 00:27:28,149 --> 00:27:26,240 there are these people who get these 800 00:27:30,389 --> 00:27:28,159 absolutely unbelievable songs and then 801 00:27:33,830 --> 00:27:30,399 there's uh people who aren't musicians 802 00:27:36,149 --> 00:27:33,840 uh i know if you know the story of um 803 00:27:38,470 --> 00:27:36,159 it's called the angeli symphony so this 804 00:27:39,510 --> 00:27:38,480 is a guy who ran a bar in 805 00:27:41,590 --> 00:27:39,520 in 806 00:27:42,549 --> 00:27:41,600 england he's like me never played music 807 00:27:44,789 --> 00:27:42,559 or anything 808 00:27:48,070 --> 00:27:44,799 and his um 809 00:27:49,190 --> 00:27:48,080 his firstborn son was born and his wife 810 00:27:54,630 --> 00:27:49,200 um 811 00:27:57,350 --> 00:27:54,640 was the name of the boy ben dies and his 812 00:28:00,310 --> 00:27:57,360 wife's still in the hospital she's uh 813 00:28:03,190 --> 00:28:00,320 badly cut up and stuff like that and so 814 00:28:04,950 --> 00:28:03,200 um he tries to bury this kid and he 815 00:28:07,430 --> 00:28:04,960 can't get the kid buried in the in the 816 00:28:09,269 --> 00:28:07,440 yard he's in in the in the church yard 817 00:28:11,190 --> 00:28:09,279 and stuff like that and he's got this 818 00:28:13,350 --> 00:28:11,200 little box and he finally buries the kid 819 00:28:15,350 --> 00:28:13,360 and he says he goes to sleep that night 820 00:28:17,590 --> 00:28:15,360 and he calls what he calls the the the 821 00:28:19,669 --> 00:28:17,600 snow people that he met in 1950s would 822 00:28:21,110 --> 00:28:19,679 come in his bedroom in 1950s and they 823 00:28:22,149 --> 00:28:21,120 came and said sometimes when this 824 00:28:23,909 --> 00:28:22,159 happens 825 00:28:26,230 --> 00:28:23,919 we give the person a gift and suddenly 826 00:28:29,510 --> 00:28:26,240 he hears this symphony in his head 827 00:28:31,510 --> 00:28:29,520 and and so he's sitting there and uh 828 00:28:32,310 --> 00:28:31,520 when he wakes up he tells his wife he 829 00:28:34,070 --> 00:28:32,320 says 830 00:28:35,990 --> 00:28:34,080 i'm going to london 831 00:28:37,190 --> 00:28:36,000 i have to do the symphony for ben and 832 00:28:38,870 --> 00:28:37,200 she's going oh you're crazy nobody 833 00:28:41,110 --> 00:28:38,880 believed them in six months i'm going 834 00:28:43,029 --> 00:28:41,120 and in six months he left and and he 835 00:28:44,710 --> 00:28:43,039 ended up getting divorced he he just 836 00:28:46,070 --> 00:28:44,720 walked away he went to london and then 837 00:28:47,750 --> 00:28:46,080 he says it's like the old thing it's 838 00:28:49,430 --> 00:28:47,760 like do you really know and so he says 839 00:28:51,669 --> 00:28:49,440 the song is in my head this whole 840 00:28:53,350 --> 00:28:51,679 symphony he goes to london and he parks 841 00:28:55,029 --> 00:28:53,360 the car and he says okay so what do i do 842 00:28:56,149 --> 00:28:55,039 next and nothing happens he's sitting 843 00:28:58,630 --> 00:28:56,159 there 844 00:29:01,110 --> 00:28:58,640 and he ends up homeless he he he ends up 845 00:29:04,149 --> 00:29:01,120 homeless in a homeless shelter he gets 846 00:29:05,430 --> 00:29:04,159 some guy he finds finally buys a guitar 847 00:29:07,669 --> 00:29:05,440 and some 848 00:29:09,190 --> 00:29:07,679 jazz guy teaches him how to play the 849 00:29:10,549 --> 00:29:09,200 guitar a little bit how to put this 850 00:29:12,149 --> 00:29:10,559 together he had this song in his head so 851 00:29:13,430 --> 00:29:12,159 you can actually see him with this jazz 852 00:29:14,710 --> 00:29:13,440 guy that's putting the song down he's 853 00:29:16,149 --> 00:29:14,720 saying no it doesn't go like that he 854 00:29:18,549 --> 00:29:16,159 goes like no no that goes like this not 855 00:29:20,789 --> 00:29:18,559 like that he's he's he's changing the he 856 00:29:21,750 --> 00:29:20,799 knows every single note and then he went 857 00:29:23,350 --> 00:29:21,760 to get it 858 00:29:25,269 --> 00:29:23,360 he wanted the london philharmonic 859 00:29:26,950 --> 00:29:25,279 orchestra to play it and he went and 860 00:29:29,190 --> 00:29:26,960 they and they did they scored and they 861 00:29:31,350 --> 00:29:29,200 said you got to score this thing it's 862 00:29:33,350 --> 00:29:31,360 going to take a million dollars instead 863 00:29:35,590 --> 00:29:33,360 million dollars okay and he leaves and 864 00:29:38,310 --> 00:29:35,600 he comes back like 20 years he spends 20 865 00:29:40,470 --> 00:29:38,320 years of his life and he he does this 866 00:29:42,149 --> 00:29:40,480 thing and it was the london philharmonic 867 00:29:44,149 --> 00:29:42,159 orchestra played it's called the angeli 868 00:29:46,070 --> 00:29:44,159 symphony and it was the only time the 869 00:29:48,710 --> 00:29:46,080 london philharmonic orchestra ever stood 870 00:29:49,830 --> 00:29:48,720 and applauded composer and so he played 871 00:29:52,149 --> 00:29:49,840 he played this thing and then he played 872 00:29:55,029 --> 00:29:52,159 it sent the tape to his wife and his 873 00:29:56,549 --> 00:29:55,039 wife said his ex-wife and she said he 874 00:29:57,990 --> 00:29:56,559 said i opened up the windows and i 875 00:29:59,750 --> 00:29:58,000 played it as loud as i could and it's 876 00:30:01,190 --> 00:29:59,760 absolutely beautiful and they asked him 877 00:30:03,430 --> 00:30:01,200 they said what would you do it again he 878 00:30:05,350 --> 00:30:03,440 said i don't think i had a choice it was 879 00:30:07,430 --> 00:30:05,360 this idea this i this song was in his 880 00:30:09,430 --> 00:30:07,440 head for 20 years and took him 20 years 881 00:30:11,029 --> 00:30:09,440 to compose it and put it out you get 882 00:30:12,870 --> 00:30:11,039 these kind of bizarre things where 883 00:30:14,710 --> 00:30:12,880 people who aren't even in the music will 884 00:30:16,310 --> 00:30:14,720 get these things or if you've seen the 885 00:30:17,990 --> 00:30:16,320 the savants there's actually one in 886 00:30:18,710 --> 00:30:18,000 wisconsin that i want to 887 00:30:22,950 --> 00:30:18,720 uh 888 00:30:24,789 --> 00:30:22,960 yeah 889 00:30:26,710 --> 00:30:24,799 we're where he where he's he's you know 890 00:30:28,310 --> 00:30:26,720 totally autistic and he he can't get off 891 00:30:29,350 --> 00:30:28,320 the bed and he's never spoken or 892 00:30:31,029 --> 00:30:29,360 whatever 893 00:30:33,269 --> 00:30:31,039 and his mother has the playing with the 894 00:30:35,190 --> 00:30:33,279 piano in the in the in the in his room 895 00:30:37,430 --> 00:30:35,200 and then suddenly she says you know to 896 00:30:39,510 --> 00:30:37,440 her husband did you leave the tv on and 897 00:30:41,750 --> 00:30:39,520 and he's standing sitting at the piano 898 00:30:43,510 --> 00:30:41,760 and he could he could sing 899 00:30:44,950 --> 00:30:43,520 seven i think it was seven years before 900 00:30:46,710 --> 00:30:44,960 he could actually talk he still couldn't 901 00:30:48,630 --> 00:30:46,720 talk he could sing 902 00:30:50,710 --> 00:30:48,640 and this is a guy that can imitate louis 903 00:30:53,029 --> 00:30:50,720 armstrong he can actually not only he's 904 00:30:55,590 --> 00:30:53,039 got the 8 000 songs that a lot of these 905 00:30:57,350 --> 00:30:55,600 savant people have in their head 906 00:30:59,590 --> 00:30:57,360 and no musical training 907 00:31:01,350 --> 00:30:59,600 but he can actually sing the the the 908 00:31:03,269 --> 00:31:01,360 actual uh like 909 00:31:05,029 --> 00:31:03,279 whether it's you know louis armstrong 910 00:31:07,430 --> 00:31:05,039 whoever it is and actually sound like 911 00:31:09,750 --> 00:31:07,440 them and he's in wisconsin i i'd like to 912 00:31:11,990 --> 00:31:09,760 see that guy he's probably about 70 913 00:31:15,269 --> 00:31:12,000 apparently he doesn't play 914 00:31:16,710 --> 00:31:15,279 leslie lemke leslie lemke yeah okay wow 915 00:31:18,870 --> 00:31:16,720 and that's that's an amazing story when 916 00:31:20,389 --> 00:31:18,880 you get this guy who had um no and 917 00:31:22,630 --> 00:31:20,399 that's what you see with savants and the 918 00:31:24,149 --> 00:31:22,640 swan thing is you have left brain damage 919 00:31:25,430 --> 00:31:24,159 so left brain damage the left brain is 920 00:31:27,190 --> 00:31:25,440 completely shut down there's no 921 00:31:29,590 --> 00:31:27,200 interference in the signal and they can 922 00:31:32,630 --> 00:31:29,600 pick this up and they can you know a lot 923 00:31:35,269 --> 00:31:32,640 of these guys will have songs where um 924 00:31:38,149 --> 00:31:35,279 they're blind and the the one on 60 925 00:31:39,750 --> 00:31:38,159 minutes the the the one guy they showed 926 00:31:41,669 --> 00:31:39,760 where he was playing with his with his 927 00:31:42,950 --> 00:31:41,679 elbows and his nose he didn't even 928 00:31:44,549 --> 00:31:42,960 realize you used your fingers to play 929 00:31:45,750 --> 00:31:44,559 the piano and they said they're 930 00:31:47,190 --> 00:31:45,760 listening to him and they said that's 931 00:31:48,710 --> 00:31:47,200 the song that was played in church this 932 00:31:51,110 --> 00:31:48,720 morning they sort of picked it up and 933 00:31:52,789 --> 00:31:51,120 this guy when he does his traveling 934 00:31:54,870 --> 00:31:52,799 around there's a bunch of these guys 935 00:31:57,350 --> 00:31:54,880 where people yell out and they say you 936 00:31:59,029 --> 00:31:57,360 gotta don't yell out the numbers because 937 00:32:00,310 --> 00:31:59,039 as soon as he yells numbers this guy 938 00:32:02,230 --> 00:32:00,320 will start playing it and he can 939 00:32:03,669 --> 00:32:02,240 actually change they can they can 940 00:32:05,669 --> 00:32:03,679 actually he's playing and they'll say 941 00:32:07,509 --> 00:32:05,679 okay play it like like jazz then he goes 942 00:32:09,269 --> 00:32:07,519 to jazz play it like this and he goes to 943 00:32:11,350 --> 00:32:09,279 a different tempo a different key and he 944 00:32:12,389 --> 00:32:11,360 can instantly change as he's going along 945 00:32:14,950 --> 00:32:12,399 and this guy 946 00:32:16,710 --> 00:32:14,960 they ask him uh how old are you 947 00:32:19,029 --> 00:32:16,720 i don't know how old i am and he says 948 00:32:21,430 --> 00:32:19,039 show me three fingers he goes 949 00:32:23,110 --> 00:32:21,440 yes this is the thing is they have no 950 00:32:25,350 --> 00:32:23,120 ability to do anything except this 951 00:32:27,029 --> 00:32:25,360 musical thing so the musical thing is 952 00:32:28,950 --> 00:32:27,039 it's really weird when you start looking 953 00:32:31,029 --> 00:32:28,960 at it and a lot of people will say it's 954 00:32:32,870 --> 00:32:31,039 kind of cool but to me i go like if we 955 00:32:34,789 --> 00:32:32,880 could figure out what's going on here 956 00:32:36,710 --> 00:32:34,799 this this is really really powerful 957 00:32:38,630 --> 00:32:36,720 stuff on how does reality actually work 958 00:32:40,630 --> 00:32:38,640 most people are just making money from 959 00:32:42,070 --> 00:32:40,640 it but when you start to see this kind 960 00:32:44,710 --> 00:32:42,080 of stuff you realize we haven't got a 961 00:32:47,110 --> 00:32:44,720 clue what's going on in the world 962 00:32:50,389 --> 00:32:47,120 man a couple amazing stories right there 963 00:32:51,909 --> 00:32:50,399 the uh lemkey story or the 964 00:32:54,870 --> 00:32:51,919 well that was touching but the the 965 00:32:56,789 --> 00:32:54,880 orchestra and jelly orchestra or angeli 966 00:32:59,430 --> 00:32:56,799 symphony that was 967 00:33:01,110 --> 00:32:59,440 that was really that hit me pretty hard 968 00:33:02,789 --> 00:33:01,120 it's like just 969 00:33:03,830 --> 00:33:02,799 you know because sometimes as a musician 970 00:33:05,350 --> 00:33:03,840 or doing anything you always 971 00:33:07,029 --> 00:33:05,360 second-guess yourself like what am i 972 00:33:09,430 --> 00:33:07,039 doing to show you you can keep doing 973 00:33:11,269 --> 00:33:09,440 this and every time with music it turns 974 00:33:13,350 --> 00:33:11,279 out to like where i don't feel like i 975 00:33:15,430 --> 00:33:13,360 even have a choice i just do it and i'm 976 00:33:17,350 --> 00:33:15,440 not trying to make money or release 977 00:33:19,350 --> 00:33:17,360 albums to the masses or whatever i'm 978 00:33:22,149 --> 00:33:19,360 just doing this stuff but that's a whole 979 00:33:24,389 --> 00:33:22,159 nother level of like on a mission and it 980 00:33:25,509 --> 00:33:24,399 paid off well yeah i don't know if it 981 00:33:28,470 --> 00:33:25,519 paid 982 00:33:29,430 --> 00:33:28,480 a million problems for him to decide but 983 00:33:32,630 --> 00:33:29,440 yeah 984 00:33:34,950 --> 00:33:32,640 and 20 years being homeless like 985 00:33:36,950 --> 00:33:34,960 getting the the london 986 00:33:39,269 --> 00:33:36,960 symphony to do that how did they not 987 00:33:40,230 --> 00:33:39,279 just throw him out on his ass 988 00:33:42,549 --> 00:33:40,240 you know 989 00:33:44,389 --> 00:33:42,559 just i would never have the balls to go 990 00:33:45,990 --> 00:33:44,399 up to a symphony and go hey you want to 991 00:33:46,789 --> 00:33:46,000 do this yeah 992 00:33:48,070 --> 00:33:46,799 you know 993 00:33:49,750 --> 00:33:48,080 and now he's supposed to be doing a 994 00:33:51,269 --> 00:33:49,760 movie i don't know if it's sort of uh 995 00:33:53,110 --> 00:33:51,279 come apart but he was they were actually 996 00:33:55,110 --> 00:33:53,120 going to do a movie on the story and 997 00:33:57,269 --> 00:33:55,120 when i had a chance to interview him and 998 00:33:58,549 --> 00:33:57,279 but he was very adamant he thought i was 999 00:33:59,909 --> 00:33:58,559 going to mess up the story and i'm going 1000 00:34:01,110 --> 00:33:59,919 no you just tell your story you start 1001 00:34:02,630 --> 00:34:01,120 from the beginning and go to the end 1002 00:34:04,710 --> 00:34:02,640 because i guess some people had taken a 1003 00:34:07,110 --> 00:34:04,720 story and sort of shuffled it all around 1004 00:34:09,030 --> 00:34:07,120 or whatever but uh he's an interesting 1005 00:34:10,550 --> 00:34:09,040 guy i mean you can look it up and and 1006 00:34:12,389 --> 00:34:10,560 the symphony is on there there's on 1007 00:34:14,710 --> 00:34:12,399 youtube you can listen to symphony and 1008 00:34:16,710 --> 00:34:14,720 you look at that from a guy who ran a 1009 00:34:19,109 --> 00:34:16,720 bar and had no musical background 1010 00:34:20,790 --> 00:34:19,119 whatsoever and to what what that what 1011 00:34:23,349 --> 00:34:20,800 that was composed and then he got 1012 00:34:25,990 --> 00:34:23,359 another one he got another one for 1013 00:34:29,030 --> 00:34:26,000 um another download song that was played 1014 00:34:30,790 --> 00:34:29,040 for some major thing in africa some 1015 00:34:32,230 --> 00:34:30,800 major uh 1016 00:34:33,990 --> 00:34:32,240 official coming to africa or whatever 1017 00:34:35,909 --> 00:34:34,000 camera just that story but he's had a 1018 00:34:37,270 --> 00:34:35,919 few of them now that uh where he's 1019 00:34:39,510 --> 00:34:37,280 picked it up and that's the whole thing 1020 00:34:40,470 --> 00:34:39,520 there is a field i believe and it's got 1021 00:34:41,750 --> 00:34:40,480 uh 1022 00:34:43,750 --> 00:34:41,760 especially if you believe that there is 1023 00:34:48,470 --> 00:34:43,760 no time there's no space 1024 00:34:51,829 --> 00:34:50,230 the physicist uh 1025 00:34:53,909 --> 00:34:51,839 john wheeler said there's no out there 1026 00:34:55,669 --> 00:34:53,919 out there if you suddenly come to this 1027 00:34:57,349 --> 00:34:55,679 idea that it's all here it's all now 1028 00:34:59,829 --> 00:34:57,359 it's all you have access to everything 1029 00:35:02,230 --> 00:34:59,839 it's just the ability to access it then 1030 00:35:04,470 --> 00:35:02,240 you you start to realize that this is an 1031 00:35:05,910 --> 00:35:04,480 incredibly important 1032 00:35:07,750 --> 00:35:05,920 aspect to how the world works and 1033 00:35:09,349 --> 00:35:07,760 everything is in the field so that's the 1034 00:35:11,030 --> 00:35:09,359 whole idea that all the inventions are 1035 00:35:12,550 --> 00:35:11,040 there all the music is there and all 1036 00:35:14,150 --> 00:35:12,560 you're doing is going in the field and 1037 00:35:15,750 --> 00:35:14,160 bringing it back out again and that's 1038 00:35:17,030 --> 00:35:15,760 the whole idea of contact modalities 1039 00:35:18,630 --> 00:35:17,040 because there's no time and there's no 1040 00:35:20,310 --> 00:35:18,640 space we sort of think well we haven't 1041 00:35:21,510 --> 00:35:20,320 invented the song yet it's in the future 1042 00:35:23,030 --> 00:35:21,520 but if you start looking at quantum 1043 00:35:25,270 --> 00:35:23,040 physics and stuff no there's no time 1044 00:35:26,950 --> 00:35:25,280 it's all here it's all now and it's all 1045 00:35:28,470 --> 00:35:26,960 inside yourself so even with the 1046 00:35:31,030 --> 00:35:28,480 near-death experiences you're not going 1047 00:35:32,870 --> 00:35:31,040 anywhere and when you die you go inside 1048 00:35:34,710 --> 00:35:32,880 yourself and more and more you'll see 1049 00:35:35,910 --> 00:35:34,720 people talking about this 1050 00:35:37,990 --> 00:35:35,920 in terms of consciousness and 1051 00:35:39,349 --> 00:35:38,000 understanding is that it's all within 1052 00:35:41,430 --> 00:35:39,359 yourself that your everything is 1053 00:35:42,790 --> 00:35:41,440 contained inside yourself like an acorn 1054 00:35:44,870 --> 00:35:42,800 all the information is there everything 1055 00:35:46,790 --> 00:35:44,880 is there and it's the ability to access 1056 00:35:49,349 --> 00:35:46,800 it so that's where i think we should go 1057 00:35:51,109 --> 00:35:49,359 and i guess it'll take a number of years 1058 00:35:52,870 --> 00:35:51,119 i was just actually listening to i i do 1059 00:35:55,190 --> 00:35:52,880 a lot of stuff with um 1060 00:35:56,950 --> 00:35:55,200 with channels i i listen because i know 1061 00:35:59,190 --> 00:35:56,960 that you can get material and one of the 1062 00:36:01,109 --> 00:35:59,200 big challenges to do is paul selleck and 1063 00:36:03,829 --> 00:36:01,119 he was talking about this uh this 1064 00:36:05,589 --> 00:36:03,839 concept that that his guide said in a 1065 00:36:07,430 --> 00:36:05,599 hundred years the world the words of 1066 00:36:08,870 --> 00:36:07,440 science will not even be used anymore 1067 00:36:13,589 --> 00:36:08,880 the idea that the way they describe it 1068 00:36:15,510 --> 00:36:13,599 is all gonna be in in terms of uh uh 1069 00:36:18,470 --> 00:36:15,520 different um 1070 00:36:20,950 --> 00:36:18,480 um chords and your different levels of 1071 00:36:22,870 --> 00:36:20,960 of music and the same thing that's how 1072 00:36:24,630 --> 00:36:22,880 they're describing the universe and if 1073 00:36:26,550 --> 00:36:24,640 you look at back at tesla and guys like 1074 00:36:28,950 --> 00:36:26,560 that he said once you start looking at 1075 00:36:30,630 --> 00:36:28,960 things in terms of vibration then you're 1076 00:36:31,829 --> 00:36:30,640 going to start making gain and we're 1077 00:36:34,310 --> 00:36:31,839 starting to get this idea that 1078 00:36:36,710 --> 00:36:34,320 everything may be vibration there's no 1079 00:36:38,470 --> 00:36:36,720 adam even you know john wheeler this 1080 00:36:40,470 --> 00:36:38,480 idea that he and this other 1081 00:36:42,470 --> 00:36:40,480 nobel prize finney 1082 00:36:44,150 --> 00:36:42,480 winning physicists came up with there's 1083 00:36:45,510 --> 00:36:44,160 only one electron when you start getting 1084 00:36:48,630 --> 00:36:45,520 in that stuff you know it's there's only 1085 00:36:50,230 --> 00:36:48,640 one thing and it's all vibration so all 1086 00:36:51,670 --> 00:36:50,240 your dimensions and our left brain wants 1087 00:36:53,109 --> 00:36:51,680 to say oh there's different levels of 1088 00:36:55,510 --> 00:36:53,119 dimensions and there's different colors 1089 00:36:57,750 --> 00:36:55,520 and there's no no nothing there's just 1090 00:37:00,230 --> 00:36:57,760 one thing and it's all just a different 1091 00:37:01,750 --> 00:37:00,240 level of vibration so music is is where 1092 00:37:03,270 --> 00:37:01,760 it's going to go in terms of science 1093 00:37:05,349 --> 00:37:03,280 that science is going i think is 1094 00:37:06,790 --> 00:37:05,359 eventually going to get to the idea 1095 00:37:09,430 --> 00:37:06,800 where they're going to talk about spin 1096 00:37:11,270 --> 00:37:09,440 they're going to talk about uh vibration 1097 00:37:13,670 --> 00:37:11,280 and everything is a vibration and it's 1098 00:37:16,470 --> 00:37:13,680 just a different a different key a 1099 00:37:17,750 --> 00:37:16,480 different uh level of music and that 1100 00:37:19,430 --> 00:37:17,760 we're playing at one level and they're 1101 00:37:21,750 --> 00:37:19,440 trying to move us to a higher level of 1102 00:37:23,349 --> 00:37:21,760 music and it's all it's all one thing 1103 00:37:25,670 --> 00:37:23,359 there is no 1104 00:37:27,910 --> 00:37:25,680 no no matter even you know that's what 1105 00:37:29,510 --> 00:37:27,920 uh max planck said after his whole life 1106 00:37:31,430 --> 00:37:29,520 he said you know i've come to conclusion 1107 00:37:34,150 --> 00:37:31,440 there is no matter as such this is the 1108 00:37:35,990 --> 00:37:34,160 guy that won the nobel prize for for for 1109 00:37:38,310 --> 00:37:36,000 the adam and he basically says no 1110 00:37:40,630 --> 00:37:38,320 there's a mind behind it and as we move 1111 00:37:41,990 --> 00:37:40,640 along as we get into the ufo thing where 1112 00:37:44,150 --> 00:37:42,000 people are still in this whole idea 1113 00:37:45,910 --> 00:37:44,160 about you know you know the aliens and 1114 00:37:48,630 --> 00:37:45,920 this sort of stuff and i'm going like no 1115 00:37:50,630 --> 00:37:48,640 man it's way beyond that man it's uh you 1116 00:37:53,030 --> 00:37:50,640 know you start looking at are there even 1117 00:37:54,790 --> 00:37:53,040 aliens in terms of uh you know the 1118 00:37:56,230 --> 00:37:54,800 questions i always ask people when i get 1119 00:37:58,310 --> 00:37:56,240 somebody on board to ship everybody else 1120 00:38:01,030 --> 00:37:58,320 did you get probed did it hurt i always 1121 00:38:03,030 --> 00:38:01,040 say hey did he have a clothes on 1122 00:38:04,710 --> 00:38:03,040 no getting the clothes on i got anything 1123 00:38:05,990 --> 00:38:04,720 that was kind of weird yeah yeah i think 1124 00:38:07,910 --> 00:38:06,000 about it's kind of weird and i say give 1125 00:38:09,190 --> 00:38:07,920 any sex organs they're raping our women 1126 00:38:10,230 --> 00:38:09,200 you know they're all this kind of stuff 1127 00:38:11,589 --> 00:38:10,240 with the 1128 00:38:13,829 --> 00:38:11,599 stuff they have any sex organs i've 1129 00:38:15,030 --> 00:38:13,839 never had anybody say yes they go 1130 00:38:16,390 --> 00:38:15,040 no i never thought about that no i 1131 00:38:17,990 --> 00:38:16,400 didn't have any sex organs and then i 1132 00:38:20,150 --> 00:38:18,000 said you have a belly button no do you 1133 00:38:22,550 --> 00:38:20,160 have ears no and i said did you ever get 1134 00:38:24,390 --> 00:38:22,560 any older i asked betty andreas since uh 1135 00:38:27,030 --> 00:38:24,400 i was interviewing her and her husband 1136 00:38:29,270 --> 00:38:27,040 uh bob luca and they 1946 their first 1137 00:38:30,390 --> 00:38:29,280 sighting he said to bob luca hey bob did 1138 00:38:32,710 --> 00:38:30,400 the alien you saw him your whole 1139 00:38:34,870 --> 00:38:32,720 lifetime it's like 1946 until now the 1140 00:38:36,550 --> 00:38:34,880 alien ever getting older nicole no but 1141 00:38:38,390 --> 00:38:36,560 aliens live a long time people want to 1142 00:38:39,990 --> 00:38:38,400 justify it and that's something aliens 1143 00:38:43,109 --> 00:38:40,000 don't or they say he was in my last 1144 00:38:44,710 --> 00:38:43,119 lifetime 25 i think say the alien said 1145 00:38:46,310 --> 00:38:44,720 that they were in their last lifetime as 1146 00:38:48,150 --> 00:38:46,320 well and you start looking at that you 1147 00:38:49,910 --> 00:38:48,160 realize it's this whole consciousness 1148 00:38:51,829 --> 00:38:49,920 thing there may not even be any aliens 1149 00:38:53,510 --> 00:38:51,839 they all the world's a stage all the men 1150 00:38:55,349 --> 00:38:53,520 and women and aliens are about actors 1151 00:38:56,870 --> 00:38:55,359 we're all acting you're pretending to be 1152 00:38:59,270 --> 00:38:56,880 a human they're pretending to be an 1153 00:39:01,510 --> 00:38:59,280 alien we're not humans we're not aliens 1154 00:39:04,390 --> 00:39:01,520 we're etheric beings who come in and 1155 00:39:06,310 --> 00:39:04,400 take on this form which which is not as 1156 00:39:08,390 --> 00:39:06,320 physical as we think it is so 1157 00:39:10,390 --> 00:39:08,400 wow that's a long way in in terms of 1158 00:39:13,109 --> 00:39:10,400 where the way i think i mean if someone 1159 00:39:15,589 --> 00:39:13,119 had told me 1975 i'd be talking like 1160 00:39:17,510 --> 00:39:15,599 this it's like not 1161 00:39:19,589 --> 00:39:17,520 a chance it was 1162 00:39:22,550 --> 00:39:19,599 you know 1975 was random we believed 1163 00:39:24,790 --> 00:39:22,560 that ufos were random events you saw ufo 1164 00:39:26,069 --> 00:39:24,800 sighting if you saw more than one even 1165 00:39:27,430 --> 00:39:26,079 people in the ufo community wouldn't 1166 00:39:30,950 --> 00:39:27,440 talk to you because you you're totally 1167 00:39:32,790 --> 00:39:30,960 nuts nobody sees more than one ufo con 1168 00:39:34,230 --> 00:39:32,800 and now we know that you see them all 1169 00:39:36,150 --> 00:39:34,240 the time people are picked people are 1170 00:39:37,910 --> 00:39:36,160 chosen they're lifers they've had this 1171 00:39:40,950 --> 00:39:37,920 stuff around them their whole life and 1172 00:39:43,190 --> 00:39:40,960 the whole concept of ufos has changed 1173 00:39:45,109 --> 00:39:43,200 dramatically since 1975 there was no 1174 00:39:46,630 --> 00:39:45,119 abductions there was no i mean travis 1175 00:39:48,710 --> 00:39:46,640 walt was abducted just after my 1176 00:39:50,710 --> 00:39:48,720 experience but uh there was it was a 1177 00:39:52,630 --> 00:39:50,720 different world altogether and we're 1178 00:39:53,990 --> 00:39:52,640 we're gradually making 1179 00:39:56,550 --> 00:39:54,000 headway i think in terms of 1180 00:39:58,950 --> 00:39:56,560 understanding that it may not be out 1181 00:40:01,670 --> 00:39:58,960 there it may actually be as as ron as 1182 00:40:03,270 --> 00:40:01,680 kit green said to uh 1183 00:40:05,109 --> 00:40:03,280 jim peniston we're trying to figure out 1184 00:40:07,030 --> 00:40:05,119 how does it pop in and pop back out just 1185 00:40:08,710 --> 00:40:07,040 as quickly how does it enter and leave 1186 00:40:10,950 --> 00:40:08,720 just as quickly and they're coming in 1187 00:40:12,230 --> 00:40:10,960 and coming out and they may not be 1188 00:40:13,990 --> 00:40:12,240 coming from anywhere they may actually 1189 00:40:15,270 --> 00:40:14,000 be here all the time or the one being 1190 00:40:19,190 --> 00:40:15,280 like when i had chris bledsoe tell me 1191 00:40:21,430 --> 00:40:19,200 that story about uh the idea that um 1192 00:40:24,069 --> 00:40:21,440 uh he had a message that i had these 1193 00:40:25,670 --> 00:40:24,079 beings from england and they still they 1194 00:40:28,069 --> 00:40:25,680 want another meeting with me they want a 1195 00:40:29,670 --> 00:40:28,079 book and they want their message out and 1196 00:40:31,270 --> 00:40:29,680 there's two women that are are getting 1197 00:40:33,349 --> 00:40:31,280 these messages from them and when i 1198 00:40:36,150 --> 00:40:33,359 talked to them i asked the eet question 1199 00:40:37,910 --> 00:40:36,160 they said oh et's if you want us to be 1200 00:40:40,150 --> 00:40:37,920 et's we could eat if you want we can 1201 00:40:42,630 --> 00:40:40,160 take you to our planet but no we're not 1202 00:40:44,870 --> 00:40:42,640 really we're actually from here we've 1203 00:40:46,550 --> 00:40:44,880 always been from here you're the visitor 1204 00:40:48,710 --> 00:40:46,560 and i was like whoa 1205 00:40:50,150 --> 00:40:48,720 it's like just incredible and that's the 1206 00:40:52,309 --> 00:40:50,160 whole thing if there's only if there's 1207 00:40:54,710 --> 00:40:52,319 no time and space it's all here it's all 1208 00:40:56,550 --> 00:40:54,720 now there is no out there out there and 1209 00:40:57,750 --> 00:40:56,560 that's a hard thing for people to grasp 1210 00:40:59,510 --> 00:40:57,760 especially when john wheeler says 1211 00:41:01,589 --> 00:40:59,520 there's no out there out there that's 1212 00:41:03,430 --> 00:41:01,599 pretty hard for the average person on 1213 00:41:05,270 --> 00:41:03,440 the street to get their head around 1214 00:41:07,270 --> 00:41:05,280 yeah well it kind of begs the question 1215 00:41:08,630 --> 00:41:07,280 like what was what's the point of us 1216 00:41:12,309 --> 00:41:08,640 then why were we 1217 00:41:14,950 --> 00:41:12,319 kind of built or seemingly built to you 1218 00:41:17,270 --> 00:41:14,960 know act and be how we are so 1219 00:41:19,270 --> 00:41:17,280 kind of um you know well hearing 1220 00:41:21,270 --> 00:41:19,280 everything well what i would say is it's 1221 00:41:22,710 --> 00:41:21,280 all consciousness so 1222 00:41:25,670 --> 00:41:22,720 the thing i've changed just in the last 1223 00:41:28,870 --> 00:41:25,680 year is in and this is after i saw mark 1224 00:41:30,550 --> 00:41:28,880 sims uh description of the tasha bar the 1225 00:41:31,750 --> 00:41:30,560 being that came to him for 13 days 1226 00:41:33,510 --> 00:41:31,760 within his body and gave him all this 1227 00:41:35,589 --> 00:41:33,520 material and it matches up with the 1228 00:41:36,950 --> 00:41:35,599 michael newton material and that is that 1229 00:41:37,829 --> 00:41:36,960 god did not create the heaven and the 1230 00:41:39,910 --> 00:41:37,839 earth 1231 00:41:42,069 --> 00:41:39,920 god created the sparks of the divine 1232 00:41:44,710 --> 00:41:42,079 we're creating the heavens and the earth 1233 00:41:46,550 --> 00:41:44,720 it's all consciousness it's all made out 1234 00:41:48,790 --> 00:41:46,560 of consciousness so we create the good 1235 00:41:50,950 --> 00:41:48,800 we create the bad it's all created by us 1236 00:41:52,870 --> 00:41:50,960 we are we've got the division it's not 1237 00:41:55,430 --> 00:41:52,880 god that's created the division we're 1238 00:41:57,109 --> 00:41:55,440 creating this world uh 1239 00:41:59,430 --> 00:41:57,119 as we as we go along and it's getting 1240 00:42:01,030 --> 00:41:59,440 more complex but we can't that we can't 1241 00:42:03,109 --> 00:42:01,040 blame hillary clinton or god or 1242 00:42:04,870 --> 00:42:03,119 mother-in-law or whatever it's us that 1243 00:42:06,390 --> 00:42:04,880 are that are are responsible for 1244 00:42:09,670 --> 00:42:06,400 everything that's happening around us or 1245 00:42:11,510 --> 00:42:09,680 even uh the whole idea as seth the big 1246 00:42:13,430 --> 00:42:11,520 chandler said 1247 00:42:15,910 --> 00:42:13,440 you manifest what happens around you 1248 00:42:17,670 --> 00:42:15,920 there is no other rule and and bashar 1249 00:42:19,030 --> 00:42:17,680 says that a lot of the people are 1250 00:42:20,790 --> 00:42:19,040 starting to get that and that's this 1251 00:42:23,109 --> 00:42:20,800 whole consciousness thing that if it's 1252 00:42:25,910 --> 00:42:23,119 all consciousness then we are creating 1253 00:42:29,030 --> 00:42:25,920 it and if you if you look at uh 1254 00:42:30,470 --> 00:42:29,040 mark sims the the tag bar being uh and 1255 00:42:32,470 --> 00:42:30,480 it matched up with michael newton's 1256 00:42:34,470 --> 00:42:32,480 theory which really blew me away when i 1257 00:42:36,390 --> 00:42:34,480 i first heard him talk about all the 1258 00:42:38,390 --> 00:42:36,400 7000 regressions he'd done and that was 1259 00:42:39,349 --> 00:42:38,400 this idea that you start as a very 1260 00:42:41,910 --> 00:42:39,359 simple 1261 00:42:44,150 --> 00:42:41,920 um sort of consciousness and it develops 1262 00:42:46,150 --> 00:42:44,160 develops and that people in the in the 1263 00:42:47,990 --> 00:42:46,160 afterlife are actually building things 1264 00:42:49,990 --> 00:42:48,000 and you know they're building rocks and 1265 00:42:52,710 --> 00:42:50,000 plants and stuff like that and that 1266 00:42:54,790 --> 00:42:52,720 according to teja bar uh when you get to 1267 00:42:56,470 --> 00:42:54,800 the top level you're creating galaxies 1268 00:42:57,589 --> 00:42:56,480 so you it's this level that you're 1269 00:42:59,349 --> 00:42:57,599 creating but it's all created out of 1270 00:43:01,109 --> 00:42:59,359 consciousness we always fall back into 1271 00:43:02,710 --> 00:43:01,119 the illusion of the physical world that 1272 00:43:04,870 --> 00:43:02,720 there's there's physical world then 1273 00:43:06,630 --> 00:43:04,880 there's consciousness no it's all as as 1274 00:43:08,470 --> 00:43:06,640 as max planck said there's there's there 1275 00:43:09,910 --> 00:43:08,480 is no matter it's all consciousness it's 1276 00:43:11,829 --> 00:43:09,920 all when you start breaking it down we 1277 00:43:13,990 --> 00:43:11,839 actually know now you can break it down 1278 00:43:15,430 --> 00:43:14,000 and and there's nothing there and how 1279 00:43:17,670 --> 00:43:15,440 does the electron 1280 00:43:20,230 --> 00:43:17,680 stay in orbit around the if the the 1281 00:43:22,470 --> 00:43:20,240 first electron that was made in say 13.7 1282 00:43:24,710 --> 00:43:22,480 billion years ago how does this thing 1283 00:43:27,030 --> 00:43:24,720 know what to do how does it know where 1284 00:43:29,430 --> 00:43:27,040 to go around the atom and keep that 1285 00:43:31,190 --> 00:43:29,440 orbit for 13.7 billion years it's the 1286 00:43:33,430 --> 00:43:31,200 whole idea it's all consciousness it's 1287 00:43:35,190 --> 00:43:33,440 all a level of consciousness and as we 1288 00:43:36,870 --> 00:43:35,200 develop we create the good and the bad 1289 00:43:38,790 --> 00:43:36,880 so when people talk about you know the 1290 00:43:40,710 --> 00:43:38,800 evil aliens or the evil spirits or the 1291 00:43:42,790 --> 00:43:40,720 evil whatever i say there may be evil 1292 00:43:44,230 --> 00:43:42,800 stuff out there but we are the ones that 1293 00:43:46,150 --> 00:43:44,240 created it and that's where skinwalker 1294 00:43:48,550 --> 00:43:46,160 ranch comes from where did this why 1295 00:43:50,470 --> 00:43:48,560 skinwalker ranch have this whole valley 1296 00:43:52,069 --> 00:43:50,480 that has all this weird stuff happening 1297 00:43:54,630 --> 00:43:52,079 around it and it's because they've 1298 00:43:55,510 --> 00:43:54,640 detonated a nuclear test there and they 1299 00:43:57,030 --> 00:43:55,520 they 1300 00:43:58,870 --> 00:43:57,040 had all these curses and all this kind 1301 00:44:00,069 --> 00:43:58,880 of stuff and we got to realize that that 1302 00:44:01,109 --> 00:44:00,079 if you can build something in the 1303 00:44:02,470 --> 00:44:01,119 physical world you can build the 1304 00:44:03,990 --> 00:44:02,480 spiritual world as well so we're 1305 00:44:06,550 --> 00:44:04,000 actually creating things in the 1306 00:44:07,670 --> 00:44:06,560 spiritual world and and that that stuff 1307 00:44:10,150 --> 00:44:07,680 will follow us around so if you commit 1308 00:44:12,150 --> 00:44:10,160 suicide or kill somebody in a house that 1309 00:44:13,750 --> 00:44:12,160 negative energy will be there for for 1310 00:44:15,109 --> 00:44:13,760 quite a long time and people who are 1311 00:44:17,270 --> 00:44:15,119 sensitive be able to pick it up it's not 1312 00:44:19,750 --> 00:44:17,280 like this evil person was there we 1313 00:44:21,829 --> 00:44:19,760 created it by whatever we do our actions 1314 00:44:23,589 --> 00:44:21,839 create positive and negative and this is 1315 00:44:25,910 --> 00:44:23,599 duality world but we're the ones that 1316 00:44:27,430 --> 00:44:25,920 are creating and it's all consciousness 1317 00:44:29,990 --> 00:44:27,440 well that makes a lot of sense because 1318 00:44:32,230 --> 00:44:30,000 i've heard from from people before like 1319 00:44:34,710 --> 00:44:32,240 at skinwalker ranch i asked him do you 1320 00:44:37,510 --> 00:44:34,720 kind of notice that it tends to give you 1321 00:44:40,390 --> 00:44:37,520 back or reflect back your general 1322 00:44:41,750 --> 00:44:40,400 attitude at the time or you know 1323 00:44:44,710 --> 00:44:41,760 so yeah yeah that's that's pretty that 1324 00:44:47,190 --> 00:44:44,720 was directly said uh um brandon fugle 1325 00:44:50,309 --> 00:44:47,200 said that i i i know he called it 1326 00:44:52,550 --> 00:44:50,319 reflexive that the people that were more 1327 00:44:53,750 --> 00:44:52,560 aggressive uh george knapp said those 1328 00:44:56,150 --> 00:44:53,760 that were the most aggressive to the 1329 00:44:57,670 --> 00:44:56,160 phenomena had the worst experiences uh 1330 00:44:59,670 --> 00:44:57,680 and and you hear this over and over 1331 00:45:02,309 --> 00:44:59,680 again or george knapp said the guys that 1332 00:45:04,790 --> 00:45:02,319 had it were the the military uh 1333 00:45:06,790 --> 00:45:04,800 ex-military guys who came in there and 1334 00:45:08,550 --> 00:45:06,800 were gonna try to take control and they 1335 00:45:10,550 --> 00:45:08,560 were gonna they were gonna you know 1336 00:45:11,589 --> 00:45:10,560 catch the skinwalker and then suddenly 1337 00:45:13,430 --> 00:45:11,599 they they turned around with the 1338 00:45:15,349 --> 00:45:13,440 skinwalker was kept you know turning 1339 00:45:17,270 --> 00:45:15,359 around and suddenly they were the hunted 1340 00:45:20,630 --> 00:45:17,280 and and you you see this over and over 1341 00:45:25,030 --> 00:45:20,640 again it's this reflective quality that 1342 00:45:26,950 --> 00:45:25,040 um we we we have and that um 1343 00:45:28,069 --> 00:45:26,960 it's how you the attitude that you take 1344 00:45:31,270 --> 00:45:28,079 towards 1345 00:45:33,190 --> 00:45:31,280 uh the phenomena will affect so why for 1346 00:45:34,790 --> 00:45:33,200 example why do you have the sort of 1347 00:45:37,349 --> 00:45:34,800 negative stuff happening at skinwalker 1348 00:45:38,950 --> 00:45:37,359 ranch but only during the the ossep days 1349 00:45:40,630 --> 00:45:38,960 not when bigelow bigelow said nobody was 1350 00:45:43,349 --> 00:45:40,640 injured because bigelow had the respect 1351 00:45:45,030 --> 00:45:43,359 or tyler d and these guys when they go 1352 00:45:46,790 --> 00:45:45,040 to the gifting field in new mexico they 1353 00:45:48,790 --> 00:45:46,800 pray and 1354 00:45:50,550 --> 00:45:48,800 basilica said that she said a surprise 1355 00:45:52,470 --> 00:45:50,560 they all they also they started praying 1356 00:45:54,710 --> 00:45:52,480 before they went on this government 1357 00:45:56,390 --> 00:45:54,720 facility that had a fence and a lock on 1358 00:45:58,630 --> 00:45:56,400 the gate and stuff like that and they 1359 00:46:00,550 --> 00:45:58,640 built altars on on the plate and they 1360 00:46:02,470 --> 00:46:00,560 realized this this spiritual connection 1361 00:46:04,150 --> 00:46:02,480 to this thing that if you if you want to 1362 00:46:05,829 --> 00:46:04,160 mess with it it's sort of like they did 1363 00:46:07,270 --> 00:46:05,839 you know the phenomena goes oh you want 1364 00:46:09,109 --> 00:46:07,280 to play evil it's okay we can do that 1365 00:46:10,710 --> 00:46:09,119 yeah sure we want to play that yeah and 1366 00:46:12,550 --> 00:46:10,720 and that's the thing is whatever you put 1367 00:46:14,470 --> 00:46:12,560 out comes back that's what bashar says 1368 00:46:16,230 --> 00:46:14,480 what you put out one of the four laws of 1369 00:46:18,309 --> 00:46:16,240 the universe what you put out comes back 1370 00:46:20,390 --> 00:46:18,319 the bible says what goes you know uh 1371 00:46:22,870 --> 00:46:20,400 what you sow you reap what goes around 1372 00:46:25,910 --> 00:46:22,880 comes around is this rule of 1373 00:46:28,390 --> 00:46:25,920 reincarnation that we are we will get to 1374 00:46:30,710 --> 00:46:28,400 play all the parts and so be careful 1375 00:46:32,309 --> 00:46:30,720 what you what you wish and what you do 1376 00:46:34,790 --> 00:46:32,319 because uh you get to play the other 1377 00:46:38,069 --> 00:46:34,800 side of the side of the game 1378 00:46:39,910 --> 00:46:38,079 instant karma's going to get you 1379 00:46:42,309 --> 00:46:39,920 and skinwalker absolutely does show that 1380 00:46:44,069 --> 00:46:42,319 i mean i pointed this out and i'm i'm 1381 00:46:45,750 --> 00:46:44,079 sure they're not too happy but the guys 1382 00:46:47,910 --> 00:46:45,760 who had the problem or these three guys 1383 00:46:49,430 --> 00:46:47,920 that went in there and they were ex and 1384 00:46:51,910 --> 00:46:49,440 they were military and they were armed 1385 00:46:54,630 --> 00:46:51,920 and stuff like that and basically they 1386 00:46:56,309 --> 00:46:54,640 ran into like a straight phenomena that 1387 00:46:57,109 --> 00:46:56,319 said and and they pulled it out of the 1388 00:46:59,349 --> 00:46:57,119 book 1389 00:47:01,030 --> 00:46:59,359 the actual story that was was in their 1390 00:47:02,630 --> 00:47:01,040 head they heard this message said leave 1391 00:47:04,069 --> 00:47:02,640 you are not welcome which completely 1392 00:47:05,510 --> 00:47:04,079 flips the whole thing around now it's 1393 00:47:07,510 --> 00:47:05,520 like you're the bad guys get the heck 1394 00:47:09,190 --> 00:47:07,520 off and we own it and that's that's what 1395 00:47:11,670 --> 00:47:09,200 these these beings from great britain 1396 00:47:13,190 --> 00:47:11,680 said we have always been here you're the 1397 00:47:15,430 --> 00:47:13,200 visitor and that was the same thing at 1398 00:47:18,309 --> 00:47:15,440 skinwalker ranch it was like no 1399 00:47:20,309 --> 00:47:18,319 this is our ranch get off and so you 1400 00:47:22,069 --> 00:47:20,319 have this whole idea that we have this i 1401 00:47:23,510 --> 00:47:22,079 think we you know say they're in our 1402 00:47:25,030 --> 00:47:23,520 airspace they're interfering with our 1403 00:47:27,349 --> 00:47:25,040 airspace it's like no they were here 1404 00:47:28,870 --> 00:47:27,359 first it's their airspace if anybody 1405 00:47:30,470 --> 00:47:28,880 owns airspace nobody owns it but if 1406 00:47:32,549 --> 00:47:30,480 anybody owns it it's their airspace it's 1407 00:47:34,790 --> 00:47:32,559 their skin rocker ranch they own it you 1408 00:47:36,309 --> 00:47:34,800 gotta play by their rules or play nice 1409 00:47:37,109 --> 00:47:36,319 in the sandbox or they're gonna take you 1410 00:47:40,150 --> 00:47:37,119 down 1411 00:47:42,069 --> 00:47:40,160 and uh we have this idea of ownership of 1412 00:47:43,670 --> 00:47:42,079 matter and you know whoever's got the 1413 00:47:46,390 --> 00:47:43,680 most toys when they die wins and stuff 1414 00:47:48,870 --> 00:47:46,400 like that and um it's it's a completely 1415 00:47:50,230 --> 00:47:48,880 different world that eventually we will 1416 00:47:52,790 --> 00:47:50,240 come to hopefully we don't blow up the 1417 00:47:54,870 --> 00:47:52,800 world before we do it but um 1418 00:47:56,549 --> 00:47:54,880 we're gradually getting this idea even 1419 00:47:59,910 --> 00:47:56,559 the idea of ecology is not even 100 1420 00:48:02,150 --> 00:47:59,920 years old the idea that you do uh to the 1421 00:48:03,910 --> 00:48:02,160 to the environment to gaia will come 1422 00:48:05,670 --> 00:48:03,920 back to bite you and this was not even 1423 00:48:06,870 --> 00:48:05,680 known 100 years ago 1424 00:48:08,630 --> 00:48:06,880 the idea 1425 00:48:10,630 --> 00:48:08,640 you know because before it was you know 1426 00:48:12,950 --> 00:48:10,640 it's my 50 feet of 1427 00:48:14,790 --> 00:48:12,960 river frontage i'll dump my stuff in 1428 00:48:16,710 --> 00:48:14,800 there from my factory and don't try to 1429 00:48:18,390 --> 00:48:16,720 stop me or whatever and we realize now 1430 00:48:20,230 --> 00:48:18,400 this this reflective quality to 1431 00:48:22,630 --> 00:48:20,240 everything that that we are producing 1432 00:48:24,950 --> 00:48:22,640 the world around us and it's all lessons 1433 00:48:26,710 --> 00:48:24,960 so there's no really good or bad things 1434 00:48:28,790 --> 00:48:26,720 the there's there's just lessons that 1435 00:48:31,190 --> 00:48:28,800 you learn from the things that you do 1436 00:48:34,470 --> 00:48:31,200 it's what's kind of scary to me is uh 1437 00:48:36,630 --> 00:48:34,480 today i read an article about sending a 1438 00:48:39,109 --> 00:48:36,640 satellite or something straight to the 1439 00:48:41,270 --> 00:48:39,119 sun to the like the corona of a sun or 1440 00:48:43,510 --> 00:48:41,280 something and then i think about landing 1441 00:48:46,390 --> 00:48:43,520 something on an asteroid like nasa's 1442 00:48:49,109 --> 00:48:46,400 doing it's like at what point 1443 00:48:51,589 --> 00:48:49,119 it seems like we're taking our mentality 1444 00:48:53,750 --> 00:48:51,599 of sucking all the resources and 1445 00:48:55,910 --> 00:48:53,760 treating the earth how we treat it and 1446 00:48:58,069 --> 00:48:55,920 we're gonna now take it up out to space 1447 00:49:00,790 --> 00:48:58,079 and do that it's like how 1448 00:49:02,790 --> 00:49:00,800 how long can you can you do that now 1449 00:49:05,270 --> 00:49:02,800 that way before you just don't have an 1450 00:49:07,430 --> 00:49:05,280 opportunity anymore to do anything yeah 1451 00:49:09,349 --> 00:49:07,440 you know yeah i look at a lot of that as 1452 00:49:12,390 --> 00:49:09,359 what ron pandolf used to call techno 1453 00:49:14,470 --> 00:49:12,400 scams he he his story was that they used 1454 00:49:15,829 --> 00:49:14,480 to go after all the billionaire people 1455 00:49:17,270 --> 00:49:15,839 who had all sorts of money and then they 1456 00:49:19,190 --> 00:49:17,280 ran out of billionaires who didn't want 1457 00:49:21,270 --> 00:49:19,200 to pay their taxes and want to get into 1458 00:49:22,309 --> 00:49:21,280 some free energy nonsense or whatever 1459 00:49:23,910 --> 00:49:22,319 and now they're gone after the 1460 00:49:26,390 --> 00:49:23,920 government so it's it's it's the old 1461 00:49:27,829 --> 00:49:26,400 idea that you you need money so there's 1462 00:49:30,549 --> 00:49:27,839 this idea about 1463 00:49:32,150 --> 00:49:30,559 the remote viewing we really don't care 1464 00:49:33,990 --> 00:49:32,160 how it works we just want to see is it 1465 00:49:36,470 --> 00:49:34,000 operational or when you get psychedelics 1466 00:49:37,510 --> 00:49:36,480 where people are on this this idea 1467 00:49:40,390 --> 00:49:37,520 with 1468 00:49:42,630 --> 00:49:40,400 psilocybin where you can treat non 1469 00:49:44,790 --> 00:49:42,640 non-treatable depression 80 success 1470 00:49:46,950 --> 00:49:44,800 ratio which you cannot treat with with 1471 00:49:49,190 --> 00:49:46,960 uh antidepressants and stuff like that 1472 00:49:51,750 --> 00:49:49,200 and people people have turned it into 1473 00:49:53,510 --> 00:49:51,760 sort of like a business thing where we 1474 00:49:55,990 --> 00:49:53,520 we everything is comes down to how much 1475 00:49:59,430 --> 00:49:56,000 money can you make and so everybody's 1476 00:50:02,470 --> 00:49:59,440 proposing a project so i i used to 1477 00:50:05,190 --> 00:50:02,480 show this one article uh we will land on 1478 00:50:07,190 --> 00:50:05,200 mars in 1976 front page article 1479 00:50:08,950 --> 00:50:07,200 guaranteeing and so you go in there and 1480 00:50:10,630 --> 00:50:08,960 it's like and then they give you a five 1481 00:50:11,750 --> 00:50:10,640 billion dollars and nothing happens and 1482 00:50:14,230 --> 00:50:11,760 then you go back and say oh we're going 1483 00:50:16,150 --> 00:50:14,240 to do it 1980. and so everybody's always 1484 00:50:18,710 --> 00:50:16,160 spinning a spin on a thing because if 1485 00:50:19,990 --> 00:50:18,720 you've got a 740 billion defense budget 1486 00:50:21,109 --> 00:50:20,000 there's a lot of money there and 1487 00:50:22,950 --> 00:50:21,119 everybody's fighting for the money so 1488 00:50:24,630 --> 00:50:22,960 you have to come up with with a need and 1489 00:50:26,069 --> 00:50:24,640 then you're going to fill the need so we 1490 00:50:27,589 --> 00:50:26,079 need to go to asteroids because of this 1491 00:50:29,190 --> 00:50:27,599 we need to go to the scion we and we 1492 00:50:31,829 --> 00:50:29,200 have all these these these things and 1493 00:50:33,270 --> 00:50:31,839 when it comes to the basic concept of 1494 00:50:34,950 --> 00:50:33,280 how does consciousness work how does 1495 00:50:36,230 --> 00:50:34,960 this whole thing work nobody cares 1496 00:50:38,309 --> 00:50:36,240 because you can't make any money at it 1497 00:50:40,309 --> 00:50:38,319 and that's why ufos has never really 1498 00:50:42,309 --> 00:50:40,319 gotten anywhere that's why they're using 1499 00:50:44,710 --> 00:50:42,319 the threat scenario because in the in 1500 00:50:46,150 --> 00:50:44,720 the obama days where if you look at 1501 00:50:48,230 --> 00:50:46,160 leslie kane's book when she wrote the 1502 00:50:49,430 --> 00:50:48,240 book with john podesta you'll see that 1503 00:50:50,950 --> 00:50:49,440 they said it was a threat to airline 1504 00:50:52,230 --> 00:50:50,960 traffic and i guess everybody just sort 1505 00:50:54,230 --> 00:50:52,240 of laughed in their face and said get 1506 00:50:56,230 --> 00:50:54,240 back out of here so we turned it into 1507 00:50:58,309 --> 00:50:56,240 you know evil aliens and you have to 1508 00:50:59,750 --> 00:50:58,319 promote that in order to get the money 1509 00:51:01,829 --> 00:50:59,760 and then you walk away with five billion 1510 00:51:03,270 --> 00:51:01,839 dollars and then when you you get a 1511 00:51:05,670 --> 00:51:03,280 little bit and then you come back and 1512 00:51:07,990 --> 00:51:05,680 it's what what eisenhower warned against 1513 00:51:09,750 --> 00:51:08,000 in his last speech his last speech was 1514 00:51:11,910 --> 00:51:09,760 beware the military industrial 1515 00:51:13,750 --> 00:51:11,920 congressional complex they took the word 1516 00:51:14,710 --> 00:51:13,760 congressional out but it was beware the 1517 00:51:16,549 --> 00:51:14,720 military 1518 00:51:18,230 --> 00:51:16,559 congressional complex because once 1519 00:51:19,589 --> 00:51:18,240 everybody's got their hand in the pot 1520 00:51:21,349 --> 00:51:19,599 and everybody's taking money out you 1521 00:51:23,510 --> 00:51:21,359 can't stop it and that's the thing where 1522 00:51:25,430 --> 00:51:23,520 i use the example of the f-35 jet 1523 00:51:27,270 --> 00:51:25,440 fighter which has all these overruns and 1524 00:51:29,349 --> 00:51:27,280 stuff like that it's made in 46 1525 00:51:31,109 --> 00:51:29,359 different states all different parts and 1526 00:51:33,190 --> 00:51:31,119 why is it done because nobody's going to 1527 00:51:34,790 --> 00:51:33,200 vote against it you've got 46 senators 1528 00:51:35,910 --> 00:51:34,800 and congressmen and people like that 1529 00:51:37,829 --> 00:51:35,920 they ain't voting against it because 1530 00:51:39,670 --> 00:51:37,839 they've got jobs in in the in the in the 1531 00:51:40,870 --> 00:51:39,680 game and that's what you do is you tie 1532 00:51:42,870 --> 00:51:40,880 everybody into the game and now we've 1533 00:51:44,950 --> 00:51:42,880 got congress involved and they're giving 1534 00:51:46,470 --> 00:51:44,960 out money and the people are going to 1535 00:51:48,230 --> 00:51:46,480 have jobs and you're never going to stop 1536 00:51:50,309 --> 00:51:48,240 it now it's just going to circle around 1537 00:51:51,670 --> 00:51:50,319 and hopefully we can get past the the 1538 00:51:53,109 --> 00:51:51,680 idea that we're going to be stupid 1539 00:51:55,990 --> 00:51:53,119 enough to think that we're going to try 1540 00:51:57,910 --> 00:51:56,000 to shoot down aliens and stuff 1541 00:51:59,190 --> 00:51:57,920 yeah that makes me nervous 1542 00:52:01,190 --> 00:51:59,200 yeah because when you look at the the 1543 00:52:03,030 --> 00:52:01,200 alien stuff i even i've even gone to the 1544 00:52:04,950 --> 00:52:03,040 point where i say the the crashes i even 1545 00:52:06,309 --> 00:52:04,960 talked to jacques vale and he's 1546 00:52:07,829 --> 00:52:06,319 i said jock i don't know if you saw the 1547 00:52:09,670 --> 00:52:07,839 interview it was shock i said jack 1548 00:52:11,589 --> 00:52:09,680 doesn't make any sense they they you 1549 00:52:13,270 --> 00:52:11,599 know they come through the galaxies and 1550 00:52:15,190 --> 00:52:13,280 they avoid the galaxies and the black 1551 00:52:17,750 --> 00:52:15,200 holes and they get all the way here and 1552 00:52:19,510 --> 00:52:17,760 then and then they suddenly crash and 1553 00:52:21,670 --> 00:52:19,520 look he started falling off the craft 1554 00:52:23,829 --> 00:52:21,680 and stuff like that and and bigelow said 1555 00:52:26,390 --> 00:52:23,839 they were they were they were um they 1556 00:52:27,910 --> 00:52:26,400 were seeding them in different countries 1557 00:52:29,990 --> 00:52:27,920 and uh 1558 00:52:31,990 --> 00:52:30,000 tyler d used the word the gifting field 1559 00:52:33,510 --> 00:52:32,000 and jacques valet i said don't you think 1560 00:52:35,829 --> 00:52:33,520 this looks like gifting stuff and jack 1561 00:52:37,829 --> 00:52:35,839 said i i think i came up with that idea 1562 00:52:40,630 --> 00:52:37,839 so they know the idea that these crashes 1563 00:52:42,950 --> 00:52:40,640 may not be crashes in fact i just did a 1564 00:52:44,549 --> 00:52:42,960 powerpoint it's on my um 1565 00:52:45,829 --> 00:52:44,559 um 1566 00:52:47,670 --> 00:52:45,839 we're putting it up in a couple of days 1567 00:52:50,710 --> 00:52:47,680 it's a powerpoint i did on these crashes 1568 00:52:51,910 --> 00:52:50,720 and metals and stuff like that where i 1569 00:52:53,109 --> 00:52:51,920 um 1570 00:52:54,549 --> 00:52:53,119 i look at 1571 00:52:56,309 --> 00:52:54,559 gary nolan if you've seen his latest 1572 00:52:59,349 --> 00:52:56,319 interview about the the the meta 1573 00:53:01,190 --> 00:52:59,359 material from the uh ubertuba thing yeah 1574 00:53:03,109 --> 00:53:01,200 one the one piece of metal from the same 1575 00:53:04,710 --> 00:53:03,119 crash the isotopes are all messed up and 1576 00:53:05,990 --> 00:53:04,720 the other one the isotopes are straight 1577 00:53:07,349 --> 00:53:06,000 and it's like and everybody's going why 1578 00:53:09,030 --> 00:53:07,359 would they do that i mean they mixed 1579 00:53:10,470 --> 00:53:09,040 like ice cream and like they were trying 1580 00:53:12,309 --> 00:53:10,480 to use this you know why did they do 1581 00:53:13,829 --> 00:53:12,319 this 1582 00:53:15,430 --> 00:53:13,839 wow they just want you to go what the 1583 00:53:17,910 --> 00:53:15,440 heck is going on here they just did this 1584 00:53:19,589 --> 00:53:17,920 weird stuff and i even showed like jack 1585 00:53:21,990 --> 00:53:19,599 valet one of the pieces that that he 1586 00:53:24,549 --> 00:53:22,000 hasn't recovered but he has in his list 1587 00:53:27,270 --> 00:53:24,559 is the one from 1897. and i said i mean 1588 00:53:30,150 --> 00:53:27,280 you really want this technology 1897 in 1589 00:53:32,950 --> 00:53:30,160 aurora texas where this thing uh crashes 1590 00:53:33,750 --> 00:53:32,960 it is moving at eight to ten miles an 1591 00:53:35,990 --> 00:53:33,760 hour 1592 00:53:38,470 --> 00:53:36,000 and it runs into a windmill and it 1593 00:53:40,950 --> 00:53:38,480 crashes the guy dies and it's like 1594 00:53:42,549 --> 00:53:40,960 really i mean you really 1595 00:53:44,470 --> 00:53:42,559 that's just crazy like eight miles an 1596 00:53:46,230 --> 00:53:44,480 hour and the guy got killed and yeah or 1597 00:53:48,230 --> 00:53:46,240 or you you have these things where 1598 00:53:49,589 --> 00:53:48,240 there's these little pieces where you 1599 00:53:51,910 --> 00:53:49,599 see the 1600 00:53:53,990 --> 00:53:51,920 idea where like 1601 00:53:55,910 --> 00:53:54,000 you have a in the roswell crash you have 1602 00:53:57,910 --> 00:53:55,920 this piece you can take a sledgehammer 1603 00:54:00,470 --> 00:53:57,920 and hit it with a sledgehammer and and 1604 00:54:01,990 --> 00:54:00,480 you can't dent it but if you if you run 1605 00:54:03,349 --> 00:54:02,000 into a windmill 80 miles an hour the 1606 00:54:05,430 --> 00:54:03,359 thing all just crashes into the little 1607 00:54:06,870 --> 00:54:05,440 tiny pieces like if a wine glass drops 1608 00:54:08,950 --> 00:54:06,880 in the fifth floor i mean it's it's like 1609 00:54:10,549 --> 00:54:08,960 crazy when you start looking at it you 1610 00:54:12,069 --> 00:54:10,559 go something's wrong here this doesn't 1611 00:54:14,069 --> 00:54:12,079 make any sense that's why i called i 1612 00:54:16,150 --> 00:54:14,079 called the theory of wow and i say when 1613 00:54:18,309 --> 00:54:16,160 i saw nolan's description of these two 1614 00:54:19,589 --> 00:54:18,319 pieces from the same crash where one was 1615 00:54:22,150 --> 00:54:19,599 all messed up and the other one wasn't i 1616 00:54:23,589 --> 00:54:22,160 said that is theory well that's it maybe 1617 00:54:25,589 --> 00:54:23,599 what the whole thing 1618 00:54:28,230 --> 00:54:25,599 i'm sort of moving to that there really 1619 00:54:31,109 --> 00:54:28,240 are no aliens there right this is all 1620 00:54:32,950 --> 00:54:31,119 here now it's always being here and it's 1621 00:54:34,390 --> 00:54:32,960 playing this part and it's trying to 1622 00:54:36,549 --> 00:54:34,400 raise our consciousness and the way it 1623 00:54:38,870 --> 00:54:36,559 raises consciousness is to use the 1624 00:54:40,870 --> 00:54:38,880 theory of wow so why do you host lights 1625 00:54:42,470 --> 00:54:40,880 on them because they want you to get 1626 00:54:44,630 --> 00:54:42,480 their attention ready 1627 00:54:46,630 --> 00:54:44,640 and everybody sees it they go man i saw 1628 00:54:48,230 --> 00:54:46,640 this thing and you can tell exactly what 1629 00:54:49,910 --> 00:54:48,240 day they saw at what time they saw it 1630 00:54:51,190 --> 00:54:49,920 they'll never leave their mind or the 1631 00:54:52,950 --> 00:54:51,200 thing which i know if you heard the 1632 00:54:54,789 --> 00:54:52,960 story about uh bud hopkins how bout 1633 00:54:56,549 --> 00:54:54,799 hopkins got involved how they drag how 1634 00:54:58,390 --> 00:54:56,559 they theory of wow the aliens got him 1635 00:55:00,549 --> 00:54:58,400 dragged in almost like the synchronicity 1636 00:55:02,789 --> 00:55:00,559 of using neil young dragging me into 1637 00:55:04,710 --> 00:55:02,799 this thing where bud hopkins is in the 1638 00:55:06,390 --> 00:55:04,720 world of the war of the worlds he was 1639 00:55:09,270 --> 00:55:06,400 like seven years old when the war of the 1640 00:55:10,950 --> 00:55:09,280 worlds was playing and his his his name 1641 00:55:12,789 --> 00:55:10,960 came into the house and they said we're 1642 00:55:13,910 --> 00:55:12,799 going up he lived in new jersey and they 1643 00:55:15,510 --> 00:55:13,920 were going to go up on the hill and 1644 00:55:16,630 --> 00:55:15,520 these aliens are coming from mars and 1645 00:55:18,230 --> 00:55:16,640 bud's looking out the window this is 1646 00:55:19,670 --> 00:55:18,240 where he gets this fear thing he's 1647 00:55:20,710 --> 00:55:19,680 looking out the window and then and the 1648 00:55:22,069 --> 00:55:20,720 father says i don't think we're going to 1649 00:55:23,270 --> 00:55:22,079 go and you bring we got to give bring 1650 00:55:24,710 --> 00:55:23,280 your guns let's go we're going up on the 1651 00:55:25,829 --> 00:55:24,720 hill we're going to take on these aliens 1652 00:55:28,549 --> 00:55:25,839 and dodging 1653 00:55:31,589 --> 00:55:28,559 them out the window and then in 1963 or 1654 00:55:33,030 --> 00:55:31,599 64 he's driving at cape cod and he's 1655 00:55:34,630 --> 00:55:33,040 with some british people he's driving 1656 00:55:36,309 --> 00:55:34,640 around and all of a sudden he looks up 1657 00:55:37,670 --> 00:55:36,319 in this ufo's sitting there and i i'll 1658 00:55:38,950 --> 00:55:37,680 always say that when people have a ufo 1659 00:55:40,630 --> 00:55:38,960 setting i'll say hey let me ask you a 1660 00:55:42,549 --> 00:55:40,640 question what was the ufo doing and they 1661 00:55:44,230 --> 00:55:42,559 always say the same thing i go i wasn't 1662 00:55:46,069 --> 00:55:44,240 doing anything it was just there 1663 00:55:47,910 --> 00:55:46,079 that's like that's what occurred to me 1664 00:55:49,510 --> 00:55:47,920 when i saw it when i first saw it what's 1665 00:55:51,910 --> 00:55:49,520 it doing it's not doing anything and 1666 00:55:53,910 --> 00:55:51,920 yeah what saw this ufo for three minutes 1667 00:55:56,470 --> 00:55:53,920 he went back the next day he retraced 1668 00:55:58,150 --> 00:55:56,480 his route how long he was driving to see 1669 00:55:59,990 --> 00:55:58,160 this thing and he just sat there and 1670 00:56:01,510 --> 00:56:00,000 then it leaves as it always does like a 1671 00:56:03,349 --> 00:56:01,520 bolt of lightning so why would it have 1672 00:56:05,510 --> 00:56:03,359 to leave so fast it leaves because we 1673 00:56:07,750 --> 00:56:05,520 want you to go wow what's going on here 1674 00:56:10,150 --> 00:56:07,760 and then they do the the the grand 1675 00:56:13,430 --> 00:56:10,160 finale is 1975 when they dragged me into 1676 00:56:17,270 --> 00:56:13,440 the whole thing 1975 bud is is buying 1677 00:56:21,349 --> 00:56:17,280 wine at the corner grocer is bar guy 1678 00:56:23,910 --> 00:56:21,359 that sells wine and booze corner as a 1679 00:56:25,910 --> 00:56:23,920 store and the guy says but i saw this 1680 00:56:27,589 --> 00:56:25,920 ufo and it's actually i think the one in 1681 00:56:29,510 --> 00:56:27,599 in close encounters where where the 1682 00:56:31,109 --> 00:56:29,520 thing is behind the guy and he thinks 1683 00:56:32,870 --> 00:56:31,119 it's a car he's waiting for the car to 1684 00:56:34,390 --> 00:56:32,880 pass and also the lights go up you know 1685 00:56:35,990 --> 00:56:34,400 and go over top of the car this is what 1686 00:56:38,150 --> 00:56:36,000 happened this thing came along it was 1687 00:56:40,230 --> 00:56:38,160 flying along him and went and landed in 1688 00:56:43,990 --> 00:56:40,240 a field and this this guy who owns the 1689 00:56:47,190 --> 00:56:44,000 the the uh the liquor store is looking 1690 00:56:48,789 --> 00:56:47,200 and these the this staircase comes down 1691 00:56:51,190 --> 00:56:48,799 and these these aliens come they look 1692 00:56:52,470 --> 00:56:51,200 like little kids dressed in snow suits 1693 00:56:54,069 --> 00:56:52,480 there's eleven 1694 00:56:55,349 --> 00:56:54,079 nine to 11 of them and they come down 1695 00:56:57,510 --> 00:56:55,359 like guys out of a fire escape and 1696 00:56:59,430 --> 00:56:57,520 they're the firemen down this thing and 1697 00:57:01,030 --> 00:56:59,440 they all got bags and they got shovels 1698 00:57:02,069 --> 00:57:01,040 with these scoop-like shovels and 1699 00:57:03,589 --> 00:57:02,079 they're running around and they're 1700 00:57:06,069 --> 00:57:03,599 they're digging holes and they put the 1701 00:57:07,750 --> 00:57:06,079 stuff in the in the in 11 bags and they 1702 00:57:09,670 --> 00:57:07,760 go racing back up into thing and they 1703 00:57:11,990 --> 00:57:09,680 again they shoot off like it's like a 1704 00:57:14,230 --> 00:57:12,000 lightning it just takes off and bud's 1705 00:57:15,829 --> 00:57:14,240 going holy cow so he goes and he says 1706 00:57:17,829 --> 00:57:15,839 i'm going to investigate this and 1707 00:57:19,829 --> 00:57:17,839 there's a building right beside the 1708 00:57:21,430 --> 00:57:19,839 field he goes to investigate this thing 1709 00:57:23,589 --> 00:57:21,440 he's so amazed by this thing and it's 1710 00:57:25,349 --> 00:57:23,599 called the stonehenge you can't make 1711 00:57:27,750 --> 00:57:25,359 this up it's called the stonehenge 1712 00:57:30,230 --> 00:57:27,760 apartment uh facility he goes to the guy 1713 00:57:31,670 --> 00:57:30,240 at the front and the security guy said 1714 00:57:33,990 --> 00:57:31,680 did you see something the other night on 1715 00:57:35,829 --> 00:57:34,000 this field he said yeah i saw it it was 1716 00:57:38,069 --> 00:57:35,839 it was it was just a light it's also 1717 00:57:39,030 --> 00:57:38,079 light but when it took off it broke the 1718 00:57:40,549 --> 00:57:39,040 window 1719 00:57:42,470 --> 00:57:40,559 and it's just there wow it's like this 1720 00:57:44,710 --> 00:57:42,480 weird stuff and so bud goes out in the 1721 00:57:46,789 --> 00:57:44,720 field and he looks and the guy the the 1722 00:57:48,710 --> 00:57:46,799 guy kept him out of the field had filled 1723 00:57:50,950 --> 00:57:48,720 the holes in there was 15 holes six 1724 00:57:52,870 --> 00:57:50,960 inches deep and then bud was hooked it 1725 00:57:54,230 --> 00:57:52,880 was like oh my god i gotta and then he 1726 00:57:55,670 --> 00:57:54,240 started to investigate that's how he got 1727 00:57:57,270 --> 00:57:55,680 dragged into it and that's the whole 1728 00:57:58,870 --> 00:57:57,280 thing about the theory of wow is why did 1729 00:58:00,630 --> 00:57:58,880 they take all the blood out of the cow 1730 00:58:01,829 --> 00:58:00,640 they take every last drop of blood out 1731 00:58:03,510 --> 00:58:01,839 of the cow and there's not a drop of 1732 00:58:05,109 --> 00:58:03,520 blood around the cow why did it do that 1733 00:58:06,789 --> 00:58:05,119 because if they didn't you wouldn't pay 1734 00:58:08,309 --> 00:58:06,799 attention they want it to be really 1735 00:58:10,390 --> 00:58:08,319 weird they want it to be so you get the 1736 00:58:12,150 --> 00:58:10,400 camera and take pictures they're sending 1737 00:58:14,230 --> 00:58:12,160 signals that's to me i'm more i look at 1738 00:58:16,150 --> 00:58:14,240 it the more i think it's this theory wow 1739 00:58:17,829 --> 00:58:16,160 it's all this big stage play and we're 1740 00:58:19,670 --> 00:58:17,839 part of the stage play we may even have 1741 00:58:21,829 --> 00:58:19,680 agreed to the stage play okay you come 1742 00:58:24,549 --> 00:58:21,839 in 1975 you come i'm going to go to 1743 00:58:26,150 --> 00:58:24,559 carman you fly by and and and it may be 1744 00:58:28,069 --> 00:58:26,160 me doing the whole thing that is all 1745 00:58:29,910 --> 00:58:28,079 this stage play and the more i look at 1746 00:58:31,270 --> 00:58:29,920 it the more it looks like it it is this 1747 00:58:32,710 --> 00:58:31,280 big sort of 1748 00:58:34,950 --> 00:58:32,720 all the world's a stage all the men and 1749 00:58:39,510 --> 00:58:37,829 like if if you know if like even talking 1750 00:58:41,750 --> 00:58:39,520 like you were saying earlier is some 1751 00:58:44,789 --> 00:58:41,760 type of channeling why aren't other type 1752 00:58:49,270 --> 00:58:44,799 of uh things just like that like seeing 1753 00:58:51,430 --> 00:58:49,280 a ufo or i guess everything around you 1754 00:58:53,670 --> 00:58:51,440 you know if you're doing it all without 1755 00:58:55,510 --> 00:58:53,680 thinking or putting much effort into it 1756 00:58:57,190 --> 00:58:55,520 or any sometimes and it just comes to 1757 00:58:59,109 --> 00:58:57,200 you like why 1758 00:59:01,190 --> 00:58:59,119 yeah that just makes sense that other 1759 00:59:03,270 --> 00:59:01,200 things would happen that way as well 1760 00:59:04,470 --> 00:59:03,280 yeah yeah the the ufo thing especially 1761 00:59:06,549 --> 00:59:04,480 i've done a couple lectures on the 1762 00:59:08,309 --> 00:59:06,559 theory of wow and the more i just came 1763 00:59:09,990 --> 00:59:08,319 to me at one point and then i and then 1764 00:59:11,750 --> 00:59:10,000 the more i look at it the more it looks 1765 00:59:13,910 --> 00:59:11,760 like especially when i saw this one from 1766 00:59:16,230 --> 00:59:13,920 gary nolan i went that is the best 1767 00:59:17,190 --> 00:59:16,240 theory wild thing i've ever seen yeah 1768 00:59:18,150 --> 00:59:17,200 what and they're getting they're trying 1769 00:59:19,270 --> 00:59:18,160 to figure out like why would they do 1770 00:59:20,470 --> 00:59:19,280 this and they're taking the metal and 1771 00:59:21,670 --> 00:59:20,480 it's like oh we analyzed this we're 1772 00:59:23,430 --> 00:59:21,680 gonna figure out the propulsion system 1773 00:59:24,950 --> 00:59:23,440 and it's like no they're dropping this 1774 00:59:26,710 --> 00:59:24,960 stuff why would they put these layered 1775 00:59:28,789 --> 00:59:26,720 pieces of metal together because and we 1776 00:59:30,950 --> 00:59:28,799 even had one from 1939 my assistant 1777 00:59:32,789 --> 00:59:30,960 desta and i were at university of uh 1778 00:59:35,510 --> 00:59:32,799 tucson or university of arizona and 1779 00:59:36,789 --> 00:59:35,520 tucson and there was one from 1939 1780 00:59:39,430 --> 00:59:36,799 coming out of the sky 1781 00:59:41,990 --> 00:59:39,440 like like a meteorite and then the la in 1782 00:59:44,150 --> 00:59:42,000 illinois digs itself it's like a spike 1783 00:59:45,910 --> 00:59:44,160 with a bubble thing on the top digs 1784 00:59:48,549 --> 00:59:45,920 itself into the lawn allows the same 1785 00:59:50,549 --> 00:59:48,559 story gets the person's attention it's 1786 00:59:52,549 --> 00:59:50,559 red hot he has to wait and as soon as it 1787 00:59:55,190 --> 00:59:52,559 cools down he pulls it out of the thing 1788 00:59:56,309 --> 00:59:55,200 it was analyzed by nasa and 1789 00:59:59,910 --> 00:59:56,319 it was 1790 01:00:03,109 --> 00:59:59,920 99 pure nickel and it has a copper core 1791 01:00:04,789 --> 01:00:03,119 1939 and no no reason they just said 1792 01:00:07,190 --> 01:00:04,799 there was nothing in the sky at that 1793 01:00:08,549 --> 01:00:07,200 time that would be at that purity of 1794 01:00:10,150 --> 01:00:08,559 nickel and it was like big mystery it's 1795 01:00:12,950 --> 01:00:10,160 like wow we don't know what's going on 1796 01:00:15,109 --> 01:00:12,960 but it it's again it's this they're just 1797 01:00:16,950 --> 01:00:15,119 peaking your curiosity dragging you 1798 01:00:19,030 --> 01:00:16,960 along and as you go along and the more 1799 01:00:20,789 --> 01:00:19,040 you look at it the more people uh 1800 01:00:22,230 --> 01:00:20,799 consciousness rises and suddenly 1801 01:00:23,670 --> 01:00:22,240 everybody realizes yeah something's 1802 01:00:25,349 --> 01:00:23,680 actually going on almost like the ufo 1803 01:00:26,870 --> 01:00:25,359 thing where we never thought there was 1804 01:00:28,950 --> 01:00:26,880 gonna be disclosure we never thought i 1805 01:00:31,109 --> 01:00:28,960 mean and 1806 01:00:32,470 --> 01:00:31,119 this guy 1807 01:00:34,230 --> 01:00:32,480 that's a that's from the blue book 1808 01:00:36,549 --> 01:00:34,240 foster picture of something that just 1809 01:00:40,390 --> 01:00:36,559 crashed straight through the ground it 1810 01:00:43,190 --> 01:00:40,400 went like 20 feet and they dug it up and 1811 01:00:44,870 --> 01:00:43,200 it did yeah it's like what the heck 1812 01:00:46,630 --> 01:00:44,880 yeah and they keep doing those things i 1813 01:00:48,390 --> 01:00:46,640 mean over and over again and 1814 01:00:49,990 --> 01:00:48,400 eventually consciousness rises to the 1815 01:00:51,990 --> 01:00:50,000 point where when the new york times 1816 01:00:54,390 --> 01:00:52,000 article came out then everybody said oh 1817 01:00:55,670 --> 01:00:54,400 yeah it's it's it's it's it's for real 1818 01:00:57,270 --> 01:00:55,680 and everybody goes yeah i knew that 1819 01:00:59,349 --> 01:00:57,280 right and everybody claimed oh we knew 1820 01:01:00,950 --> 01:00:59,359 that already we never doubted that and 1821 01:01:02,470 --> 01:01:00,960 so you you're going to get to the point 1822 01:01:06,230 --> 01:01:02,480 where okay where are they from and and 1823 01:01:07,270 --> 01:01:06,240 we just gradually go it's almost like um 1824 01:01:10,390 --> 01:01:07,280 it's going to take three or four 1825 01:01:13,109 --> 01:01:10,400 generations for this thing to sort of uh 1826 01:01:14,870 --> 01:01:13,119 assimilate but i i'll pretty well 1827 01:01:16,870 --> 01:01:14,880 guarantee it it's going to end up being 1828 01:01:18,549 --> 01:01:16,880 a lot less physical and people think a 1829 01:01:19,750 --> 01:01:18,559 lot more spiritual than people think it 1830 01:01:23,109 --> 01:01:19,760 is which they're really not going to 1831 01:01:24,789 --> 01:01:23,119 like and a thousand times more complex 1832 01:01:26,470 --> 01:01:24,799 the more i look at it the more complex 1833 01:01:28,549 --> 01:01:26,480 it it seems to become especially you 1834 01:01:29,750 --> 01:01:28,559 start looking at remote viewing and you 1835 01:01:31,589 --> 01:01:29,760 look at 1836 01:01:33,829 --> 01:01:31,599 distance healing and stuff like that i 1837 01:01:34,870 --> 01:01:33,839 talked about in contact modalities you 1838 01:01:38,309 --> 01:01:34,880 start looking at this stuff and you 1839 01:01:39,589 --> 01:01:38,319 realize like wow i mean just incredible 1840 01:01:41,270 --> 01:01:39,599 there's no explanations for how this 1841 01:01:43,270 --> 01:01:41,280 stuff is done 1842 01:01:44,789 --> 01:01:43,280 that's incredible i admire the work 1843 01:01:46,950 --> 01:01:44,799 you're putting in sir 1844 01:01:48,630 --> 01:01:46,960 well i thanks for your interest in it 1845 01:01:51,270 --> 01:01:48,640 and uh 1846 01:01:54,309 --> 01:01:51,280 so yeah i'm still into the document 1847 01:01:56,390 --> 01:01:54,319 phase but i'm i'm petering out i'm just 1848 01:01:57,670 --> 01:01:56,400 about finished with the blue book in the 1849 01:01:59,430 --> 01:01:57,680 60s so 1850 01:02:02,950 --> 01:01:59,440 yeah i found a bunch of pictures and all 1851 01:02:04,390 --> 01:02:02,960 that stuff and like over 180 and you 1852 01:02:06,549 --> 01:02:04,400 know i'm pretty much tapped out on the 1853 01:02:08,870 --> 01:02:06,559 document side now so 1854 01:02:10,950 --> 01:02:08,880 i still do documents i mean i i cuz me 1855 01:02:12,710 --> 01:02:10,960 it's always been like a chess game it's 1856 01:02:14,230 --> 01:02:12,720 always been about um i sit there and i 1857 01:02:15,990 --> 01:02:14,240 watch the board and and it's like why 1858 01:02:17,270 --> 01:02:16,000 would they move make that move what why 1859 01:02:18,710 --> 01:02:17,280 yeah 1860 01:02:20,950 --> 01:02:18,720 what what what's happening here what's 1861 01:02:22,470 --> 01:02:20,960 really going on and the idea is there's 1862 01:02:25,430 --> 01:02:22,480 no evil person on the other side it's 1863 01:02:27,029 --> 01:02:25,440 just the the thing to to play so i and i 1864 01:02:28,549 --> 01:02:27,039 was a collector as well so i've got all 1865 01:02:30,390 --> 01:02:28,559 statin friedman files i went but i never 1866 01:02:31,910 --> 01:02:30,400 read them i got all the clinton files i 1867 01:02:33,270 --> 01:02:31,920 never read those either i've got 10 000 1868 01:02:35,029 --> 01:02:33,280 pages of the clinton library and 1869 01:02:37,510 --> 01:02:35,039 whatever and i'll probably go back to 1870 01:02:39,190 --> 01:02:37,520 the stanton files again and gather more 1871 01:02:41,029 --> 01:02:39,200 material because it's sort of like the 1872 01:02:42,630 --> 01:02:41,039 the the idea where 1873 01:02:45,270 --> 01:02:42,640 you're looking at files that only 1874 01:02:47,109 --> 01:02:45,280 stanton and the archive has ever touched 1875 01:02:48,549 --> 01:02:47,119 and you're waiting for the thing where 1876 01:02:50,390 --> 01:02:48,559 we had a few that we found in the 1877 01:02:52,789 --> 01:02:50,400 stanton files where 1878 01:02:55,589 --> 01:02:52,799 for example a piece of roswell material 1879 01:02:57,430 --> 01:02:55,599 where it was they they had it in the in 1880 01:02:58,789 --> 01:02:57,440 the archives and i said to i said you 1881 01:03:00,870 --> 01:02:58,799 got that thing out and they said yeah i 1882 01:03:02,470 --> 01:03:00,880 said you better put that thing under 1883 01:03:04,230 --> 01:03:02,480 lock and key because someone's gonna 1884 01:03:05,670 --> 01:03:04,240 walk off of that that somebody had says 1885 01:03:08,549 --> 01:03:05,680 told stan they had a piece of the 1886 01:03:10,789 --> 01:03:08,559 roswell uh crash and they mailed it to 1887 01:03:13,109 --> 01:03:10,799 him and they have it on this handwritten 1888 01:03:14,630 --> 01:03:13,119 letter and they it's in a little baggie 1889 01:03:16,390 --> 01:03:14,640 and they just taped the baggie to the 1890 01:03:17,990 --> 01:03:16,400 letter and i said you got to lock that 1891 01:03:19,349 --> 01:03:18,000 thing up 1892 01:03:21,430 --> 01:03:19,359 that's the whole deal is again it was 1893 01:03:22,950 --> 01:03:21,440 this little piece of metal you know that 1894 01:03:23,910 --> 01:03:22,960 the thing had fallen into a million 1895 01:03:25,349 --> 01:03:23,920 pieces 1896 01:03:27,990 --> 01:03:25,359 and this little piece i don't know if it 1897 01:03:30,470 --> 01:03:28,000 was analyzed or the one with the ufos 1898 01:03:32,309 --> 01:03:30,480 over top of the cows where they had the 1899 01:03:33,670 --> 01:03:32,319 photograph of the 1900 01:03:37,270 --> 01:03:33,680 thing over the cows and there was like 1901 01:03:41,349 --> 01:03:37,280 eight ufos taken by a reporter 1902 01:03:42,789 --> 01:03:41,359 uh a newspaper reporter a big screen 1903 01:03:45,670 --> 01:03:42,799 like a high def 1904 01:03:48,309 --> 01:03:45,680 photograph of eight ufos over top during 1905 01:03:49,910 --> 01:03:48,319 the day over these cows in ontario or 1906 01:03:51,190 --> 01:03:49,920 quebec or wherever it was like that and 1907 01:03:53,109 --> 01:03:51,200 you find these little things so when i 1908 01:03:54,630 --> 01:03:53,119 go there or the other thing i you would 1909 01:03:55,750 --> 01:03:54,640 talk about this reflective thing and 1910 01:03:57,430 --> 01:03:55,760 people said there's injuries yeah 1911 01:03:59,910 --> 01:03:57,440 there's injuries and the one the number 1912 01:04:01,910 --> 01:03:59,920 one i went for was when i went there i i 1913 01:04:03,510 --> 01:04:01,920 said to have you got the cuban file and 1914 01:04:05,029 --> 01:04:03,520 you said yeah we got the cuban file i 1915 01:04:06,789 --> 01:04:05,039 said i need to that's the first thing i 1916 01:04:08,630 --> 01:04:06,799 looked for first box i pulled it was the 1917 01:04:12,630 --> 01:04:08,640 cuban file and that was the story that 1918 01:04:15,990 --> 01:04:12,640 1967 the the cubans uh pick up two jets 1919 01:04:18,390 --> 01:04:16,000 coming or a ufo coming in into mexico 1920 01:04:19,910 --> 01:04:18,400 into cuba and they scramble these two 1921 01:04:21,750 --> 01:04:19,920 jets and is picked up by u.s navy 1922 01:04:23,430 --> 01:04:21,760 intelligence out of florida and they're 1923 01:04:25,349 --> 01:04:23,440 listening to the whole communication as 1924 01:04:27,670 --> 01:04:25,359 it's going along and they lock on and 1925 01:04:29,990 --> 01:04:27,680 they say take it down and the guy locks 1926 01:04:32,549 --> 01:04:30,000 on and boom they talk about the guy in 1927 01:04:34,470 --> 01:04:32,559 the back the the wingman says he's gone 1928 01:04:36,150 --> 01:04:34,480 he's gone he disintegrated it's like 1929 01:04:37,750 --> 01:04:36,160 poof the plane just disappeared and 1930 01:04:39,829 --> 01:04:37,760 that's the whole thing yeah if you want 1931 01:04:41,750 --> 01:04:39,839 if you want to play uh 1932 01:04:44,150 --> 01:04:41,760 it's the reflective thing people get 1933 01:04:46,549 --> 01:04:44,160 injured don't take a gun to a ce5 that's 1934 01:04:48,309 --> 01:04:46,559 this sort of mess 1935 01:04:50,150 --> 01:04:48,319 and and so i looked at this and this is 1936 01:04:53,349 --> 01:04:50,160 the whole thing where stan got it and it 1937 01:04:55,190 --> 01:04:53,359 went to the um the f to national choir 1938 01:04:58,710 --> 01:04:55,200 at the time was bob pratt who i knew 1939 01:05:00,549 --> 01:04:58,720 fairly well and he filed an foia and 1940 01:05:02,549 --> 01:05:00,559 they came back and said that would be 1941 01:05:05,109 --> 01:05:02,559 classified we would never reveal that to 1942 01:05:07,109 --> 01:05:05,119 you and then the head of one of the ufo 1943 01:05:08,630 --> 01:05:07,119 groups said unless you give us the files 1944 01:05:10,309 --> 01:05:08,640 i'm going to the cuban embassy and the 1945 01:05:11,750 --> 01:05:10,319 fbi came to his door the same day and 1946 01:05:13,270 --> 01:05:11,760 scared to live on the other side again 1947 01:05:15,190 --> 01:05:13,280 the guy never talked about it again so 1948 01:05:17,270 --> 01:05:15,200 you have these cases i knew stan had 1949 01:05:18,950 --> 01:05:17,280 that and i knew stan had taped a lot of 1950 01:05:21,349 --> 01:05:18,960 his phone calls so that i haven't heard 1951 01:05:23,829 --> 01:05:21,359 yet but he taped a lot 1952 01:05:26,789 --> 01:05:23,839 so you have all this stuff 1953 01:05:29,190 --> 01:05:26,799 you know 15 15 piles of material but to 1954 01:05:30,549 --> 01:05:29,200 me i'm going in there and and i never 1955 01:05:31,589 --> 01:05:30,559 read it because what you do is if you're 1956 01:05:33,109 --> 01:05:31,599 going in an archives you haven't got 1957 01:05:34,950 --> 01:05:33,119 time to sit there and read anything so 1958 01:05:37,109 --> 01:05:34,960 you just sit there with a camera and you 1959 01:05:39,029 --> 01:05:37,119 scan as fast as you can turn the pages 1960 01:05:40,870 --> 01:05:39,039 scan scan scan scan i did the same thing 1961 01:05:42,789 --> 01:05:40,880 at the at the clinton at the clinton 1962 01:05:44,390 --> 01:05:42,799 library sat there for five days and just 1963 01:05:45,510 --> 01:05:44,400 photographed photograph photograph so 1964 01:05:47,670 --> 01:05:45,520 i've never even read the stuff there may 1965 01:05:49,589 --> 01:05:47,680 be some bombshell document in there or 1966 01:05:51,029 --> 01:05:49,599 whatever i don't know but i have to roll 1967 01:05:53,430 --> 01:05:51,039 on one drive and i've made sure that 1968 01:05:55,109 --> 01:05:53,440 when i die that this stuff will all be 1969 01:05:56,710 --> 01:05:55,119 accessible or i've even given people 1970 01:05:57,910 --> 01:05:56,720 access to this that three minute files 1971 01:05:59,190 --> 01:05:57,920 and i always say that because i i 1972 01:06:01,190 --> 01:05:59,200 figured they could help me read the 1973 01:06:02,870 --> 01:06:01,200 documents rather than me reading them 1974 01:06:04,390 --> 01:06:02,880 you get day number two take day number 1975 01:06:06,230 --> 01:06:04,400 two and you read all the documents i 1976 01:06:07,670 --> 01:06:06,240 photographed on day number two nobody's 1977 01:06:09,430 --> 01:06:07,680 ever contacted me back and said i found 1978 01:06:11,510 --> 01:06:09,440 this real neat document they sort of 1979 01:06:13,430 --> 01:06:11,520 like you give people access but 1980 01:06:15,510 --> 01:06:13,440 documents are very tough saying if you 1981 01:06:17,589 --> 01:06:15,520 gotta because they're not sorted they're 1982 01:06:19,510 --> 01:06:17,599 all uh you know you gotta read them one 1983 01:06:21,349 --> 01:06:19,520 at a time they're photographing their 1984 01:06:23,349 --> 01:06:21,359 greatest quality and stuff like that but 1985 01:06:24,870 --> 01:06:23,359 i still do the document thing i just 1986 01:06:27,829 --> 01:06:24,880 in fact the obama stuff i'm going to get 1987 01:06:29,109 --> 01:06:27,839 next month i did the the um 1988 01:06:32,549 --> 01:06:29,119 the whole thing with the clinton thing 1989 01:06:35,190 --> 01:06:32,559 where the first 11 of the first 17 foias 1990 01:06:38,150 --> 01:06:35,200 of the clinton white house were ufos and 1991 01:06:40,470 --> 01:06:38,160 fox news phoned me washington post uh 1992 01:06:42,309 --> 01:06:40,480 everybody the associated press and 1993 01:06:44,470 --> 01:06:42,319 they're all going like what's with the 1994 01:06:47,109 --> 01:06:44,480 office of the clintons and the thing is 1995 01:06:48,230 --> 01:06:47,119 it's foia is first come first served so 1996 01:06:49,750 --> 01:06:48,240 there was a bunch of lawyers in 1997 01:06:51,589 --> 01:06:49,760 washington who were really upset they 1998 01:06:53,910 --> 01:06:51,599 wanted hillary clinton's uh 1999 01:06:56,390 --> 01:06:53,920 phone diaries and i wrote him i said you 2000 01:06:59,589 --> 01:06:56,400 sobs you stand in line you think you're 2001 01:07:01,270 --> 01:06:59,599 a big hot shot conservative 2002 01:07:02,549 --> 01:07:01,280 lawyers and you're going to get the 2003 01:07:04,549 --> 01:07:02,559 stuff 2004 01:07:06,069 --> 01:07:04,559 you're no better than anybody else you 2005 01:07:08,309 --> 01:07:06,079 if you if that was important you would 2006 01:07:11,109 --> 01:07:08,319 have filed before me you filed after me 2007 01:07:14,470 --> 01:07:12,390 but that was the whole thing is first 2008 01:07:16,390 --> 01:07:14,480 come first serve so i guarantee i'll be 2009 01:07:18,950 --> 01:07:16,400 following one minute after midnight on 2010 01:07:20,870 --> 01:07:18,960 january the 20th going after podesta's 2011 01:07:22,470 --> 01:07:20,880 files and and 2012 01:07:24,150 --> 01:07:22,480 got some stories about you know the 2013 01:07:26,150 --> 01:07:24,160 thing about did they brief chris bledsoe 2014 01:07:27,910 --> 01:07:26,160 to the president right 2015 01:07:29,589 --> 01:07:27,920 and that's the stuff i'll be going after 2016 01:07:31,349 --> 01:07:29,599 and i may find something i may not but 2017 01:07:34,549 --> 01:07:31,359 it's it's a game that's the part i i 2018 01:07:36,069 --> 01:07:34,559 sort of enjoy but um 2019 01:07:37,589 --> 01:07:36,079 because to me the ultimate game is is 2020 01:07:38,789 --> 01:07:37,599 what the heck's really going on here 2021 01:07:40,549 --> 01:07:38,799 like you know i'm running out of time 2022 01:07:42,150 --> 01:07:40,559 i'm not that young so i'm trying to 2023 01:07:44,870 --> 01:07:42,160 figure out like what is really going on 2024 01:07:46,470 --> 01:07:44,880 and it i'm pretty well assured it's 2025 01:07:48,230 --> 01:07:46,480 going to come down to the fact that it's 2026 01:07:50,390 --> 01:07:48,240 all consciousness it's all one thing 2027 01:07:52,150 --> 01:07:50,400 there's no time in space it's all this 2028 01:07:53,109 --> 01:07:52,160 thing and they know how their auto 2029 01:07:55,270 --> 01:07:53,119 operates 2030 01:07:56,870 --> 01:07:55,280 yeah now that makes a lot of sense and 2031 01:07:58,309 --> 01:07:56,880 you know i really appreciate you taking 2032 01:07:59,349 --> 01:07:58,319 that time to come here and educate 2033 01:08:01,589 --> 01:07:59,359 myself 2034 01:08:04,470 --> 01:08:01,599 and whoever's watching that that takes 2035 01:08:05,190 --> 01:08:04,480 it in um it's great stuff so it really 2036 01:08:08,309 --> 01:08:05,200 is 2037 01:08:09,510 --> 01:08:08,319 um hopefully we'll be able to get to do 2038 01:08:11,589 --> 01:08:09,520 it again if you need help with the 2039 01:08:12,470 --> 01:08:11,599 stanton stuff let me know i've probably 2040 01:08:15,190 --> 01:08:12,480 read 2041 01:08:18,630 --> 01:08:15,200 if i had to guess maybe five thousand or 2042 01:08:20,309 --> 01:08:18,640 so documents in about six months so 2043 01:08:21,669 --> 01:08:20,319 if you want to use that and stuff i get 2044 01:08:23,430 --> 01:08:21,679 i got a click of a mouse i can give you 2045 01:08:24,149 --> 01:08:23,440 a stat and files and you can check it 2046 01:08:26,390 --> 01:08:24,159 out 2047 01:08:28,709 --> 01:08:26,400 yeah i mean i got i got that stuff down 2048 01:08:31,829 --> 01:08:28,719 pretty bad by now so 2049 01:08:34,789 --> 01:08:31,839 yeah okay um i appreciate your time yep 2050 01:08:36,550 --> 01:08:34,799 we'll talk soon be well go lay on the 2051 01:08:37,590 --> 01:08:36,560 couch take a nap or something play the 2052 01:08:38,470 --> 01:08:37,600 piano 2053 01:08:39,669 --> 01:08:38,480 okay 2054 01:08:40,630 --> 01:08:39,679 all right take care we'll talk to you 2055 01:08:42,470 --> 01:08:40,640 later 2056 01:08:45,669 --> 01:08:42,480 bye 2057 01:08:48,630 --> 01:08:45,679 all right that was great um mr grant 2058 01:08:50,309 --> 01:08:48,640 cameron always fantastic 2059 01:08:52,070 --> 01:08:50,319 um 2060 01:08:54,870 --> 01:08:52,080 i appreciate his take on things i 2061 01:08:55,990 --> 01:08:54,880 appreciate his work ethic you know and 2062 01:08:58,470 --> 01:08:56,000 his way of 2063 01:09:00,070 --> 01:08:58,480 uh looking at this whole situation is is 2064 01:09:01,910 --> 01:09:00,080 somewhat refreshing it 2065 01:09:04,070 --> 01:09:01,920 so 2066 01:09:05,749 --> 01:09:04,080 i hope you enjoyed it 2067 01:09:10,470 --> 01:09:05,759 i really appreciate you taking the time 2068 01:09:16,630 --> 01:09:14,229 right and uap secrecy day it'll be maybe 2069 01:09:18,789 --> 01:09:16,640 a little bit of a celebration that 2070 01:09:21,110 --> 01:09:18,799 there's some historic legislation 2071 01:09:22,789 --> 01:09:21,120 hopefully 2072 01:09:24,870 --> 01:09:22,799 um 2073 01:09:26,630 --> 01:09:24,880 you know who knows 2074 01:09:28,070 --> 01:09:26,640 grant always kind of seems to put me in 2075 01:09:30,709 --> 01:09:28,080 check in different ways 2076 01:09:32,229 --> 01:09:30,719 uh but hopefully it everything goes well 2077 01:09:34,070 --> 01:09:32,239 um we're gonna have a lot of great 2078 01:09:35,590 --> 01:09:34,080 guests that's for sure and i can't wait 2079 01:09:37,430 --> 01:09:35,600 to talk to everybody 2080 01:09:39,269 --> 01:09:37,440 um ross cole hart 2081 01:09:42,550 --> 01:09:39,279 john ramirez 2082 01:09:45,590 --> 01:09:42,560 um linda thompson we have disclosure 2083 01:09:46,550 --> 01:09:45,600 team co-hosting we have benji co-hosting 2084 01:09:48,870 --> 01:09:46,560 we have 2085 01:09:50,229 --> 01:09:48,880 um signal co-hosting quantum wage 2086 01:09:51,030 --> 01:09:50,239 co-hosting 2087 01:09:53,669 --> 01:09:51,040 um 2088 01:09:57,189 --> 01:09:53,679 who else we have we have calling all 2089 01:09:59,910 --> 01:09:57,199 beings we have a new uh shadows of your 2090 01:10:03,030 --> 01:09:59,920 shadows magazine dave uh partridge is 2091 01:10:06,070 --> 01:10:03,040 gonna come on so that's awesome uh we 2092 01:10:10,630 --> 01:10:08,550 just too many people 2093 01:10:12,950 --> 01:10:10,640 too many people steve bassett 2094 01:10:15,110 --> 01:10:12,960 um jay christopher king 2095 01:10:17,189 --> 01:10:15,120 um 2096 01:10:19,510 --> 01:10:17,199 so many people so i can't wait to do 2097 01:10:21,830 --> 01:10:19,520 that it's gonna be eight hours 2098 01:10:25,910 --> 01:10:21,840 i don't know how i'm gonna make it um 2099 01:10:27,189 --> 01:10:25,920 but luckily i got some fam showing up 2100 01:10:29,510 --> 01:10:27,199 uh that are gonna help out with the 2101 01:10:31,270 --> 01:10:29,520 co-hosting and such because you know i 2102 01:10:33,110 --> 01:10:31,280 need a smoke break here and there 2103 01:10:34,790 --> 01:10:33,120 [Laughter] 2104 01:10:36,229 --> 01:10:34,800 so it's going to be a great time tell 2105 01:10:38,470 --> 01:10:36,239 your friends 2106 01:10:40,070 --> 01:10:38,480 right tell everybody 2107 01:10:43,030 --> 01:10:40,080 to show up 2108 01:10:46,790 --> 01:10:43,040 and we got donations going to 2109 01:10:48,790 --> 01:10:46,800 project galileo right now it seems 2110 01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:48,800 although i have to double check that 2111 01:10:51,189 --> 01:10:50,050 they'll be able to 2112 01:10:52,709 --> 01:10:51,199 [Music] 2113 01:10:55,030 --> 01:10:52,719 accept them because it'll 2114 01:10:57,110 --> 01:10:55,040 uh more than likely be a smaller you 2115 01:10:58,870 --> 01:10:57,120 know donation for them so 2116 01:11:00,070 --> 01:10:58,880 um if not we'll figure something out 2117 01:11:02,149 --> 01:11:00,080 together 2118 01:11:03,750 --> 01:11:02,159 um but we'll donate it to somebody 2119 01:11:05,830 --> 01:11:03,760 promise so 2120 01:11:08,310 --> 01:11:05,840 with that being said 2121 01:11:11,430 --> 01:11:08,320 um starts at 1 30 2122 01:11:13,510 --> 01:11:11,440 uh central time laura 2123 01:11:15,510 --> 01:11:13,520 yep to 8 30 2124 01:11:16,229 --> 01:11:15,520 or 9 30 central time 2125 01:11:19,350 --> 01:11:16,239 so 2126 01:11:22,790 --> 01:11:19,360 lara tr surf psych benji 2127 01:11:25,430 --> 01:11:22,800 uh derek diesel uh toby 2128 01:11:28,149 --> 01:11:25,440 pontificator carl 2129 01:11:31,910 --> 01:11:28,159 dope knows robert 2130 01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:34,950 just d 2131 01:11:37,830 --> 01:11:35,990 um 2132 01:11:39,189 --> 01:11:37,840 r r 2133 01:11:40,390 --> 01:11:39,199 terry hall 2134 01:11:42,390 --> 01:11:40,400 steve shaw 2135 01:11:45,270 --> 01:11:42,400 eleven 2136 01:11:47,830 --> 01:11:45,280 k 42 d the paisley wave 2137 01:11:51,110 --> 01:11:47,840 everybody for hanging out and chatting 2138 01:11:54,870 --> 01:11:51,120 uh slave lucy even you 2139 01:11:56,630 --> 01:11:54,880 um priscilla alicia 2140 01:11:58,550 --> 01:11:56,640 daniel christensen 2141 01:12:01,350 --> 01:11:58,560 josh 2142 01:12:03,189 --> 01:12:01,360 man so many people list off i love that 2143 01:12:04,470 --> 01:12:03,199 uh buck 2144 01:12:09,430 --> 01:12:04,480 buck wild 2145 01:12:12,390 --> 01:12:10,390 ah 2146 01:12:14,550 --> 01:12:12,400 kirsten i i don't want to say your name 2147 01:12:16,870 --> 01:12:14,560 wrong i always i know how it's spelled 2148 01:12:20,310 --> 01:12:19,110 i have to say it correctly josh 2149 01:12:22,630 --> 01:12:20,320 um 2150 01:12:25,030 --> 01:12:22,640 alien girl she's for infinity 2151 01:12:27,270 --> 01:12:25,040 enzo 2152 01:12:29,590 --> 01:12:27,280 who else we got who else we got 2153 01:12:31,189 --> 01:12:29,600 yep it seems like it 2154 01:12:33,750 --> 01:12:31,199 so peace out homies we'll see you 2155 01:12:34,709 --> 01:12:33,760 tomorrow i'm gonna get my breast get all 2156 01:12:37,669 --> 01:12:34,719 ready 2157 01:12:38,630 --> 01:12:37,679 uh for tomorrow i'm super excited about 2158 01:12:40,790 --> 01:12:38,640 it 2159 01:12:45,030 --> 01:12:40,800 and we will 2160 01:12:48,070 --> 01:12:45,040 see you for nuap secrecy december 17th 2161 01:12:51,350 --> 01:12:48,080 1 30 pm central time 2162 01:12:56,770 --> 01:12:51,360 to 9 30 pm central time